Then the reality sinks in.
im surprised Tony Baxter would say something like that because the motorboat area does not run over the sub building and the sub building does not go anywhere near the IASW area. The sub building runs on the far east section of the land and the only thing above it is the Autopia track. as. After of fact most of the Autopia track that runs above the sub building used to be the Tomorrowland autopia track. The balance of the track used to be the old fantasyland autopia before it was merged with the existing autopia.
Theonly thing they really need to do if they want to develop a portion of that land is remove the autopia, the old people over track in that area and the inner '8' loop portion of the monorail for height clearance. They could just leave the outer loop of the monorail alone.
Im actually surprised theydid not use the IASW mall area and part of the lagoon near the old motorboat dock as the new location for the fantasy fair. Only problem with that would be the constant monorail passing overhead of course
I am glad that Disneyland will never get a PeopleMover again because I love how WDW has it and it is uniquely theirs. Plus the one installed at WDW was way superior to the original at Disneyland. Keep WDW as a better destination than Disneyland.
The submarine dry dock and maintenance bay is located maybe 175 feet north-east of the north end of the motor boat dock, that's close to IASW as you can see it in the backstage area where the parades come out from Small World. You could use the dock area and pond, but the ride would have to stretch back to where the Fantasyland Autopia entrance was, and use some, but not all of the land.
The sub track makes a sort of backwards "C" with its tip in Tomorrowland, and the top of the other tip near Small World, with the back of the C against the east side of the park.
What Tony meant was that it looks like there is a lot of land around the Motor Boat dock and Small World, but really there is a whole ton of maintenance for the subs.
If they removed the subs that would be a *lot* of area to have to fill with something big. That takes big bucks. And if it wasn't at least as pretty as the lagoon (the only clear body of water in the park) then it wouldn't be much of a gain.
Since every one else is giving ideas, here's mine. Take out the old PM track but retain the bases. Install a complete new rail/rollercoaster track system (steel tube). The new PM would be a completely enclosed pod system (think of the pods in the Incredibles). The loading/unloading system would be like the original PM and always move. Get into a pod and it closes. It would be a powered roller coaster instead of a gravity coaster. Faster than the PM but able to slow down or accelerate for whatever reason. Don't make it a pure thrill ride but a style of transportation with speed. Instead of routing through existing buildings take it through it's own venues. WDI could tie in anything they wanted; Tron, Star Wars, Incredibles, Mission to Mars. Think of when Ms Incredible was on the outside of the pod and it was zipping through the buildings. The new track route could go anywhere; above ground, below ground, zip around the Autopia, even go through SM.
Thanks for the info guys!
I think we're going to see the sub/Autopia/Motor Boat Cruise areas pretty unchanged for at least the next decade. Why should Disney go through all the trouble of digging up the sub show building and Autopia when they have a ton of space where Innoventions is, as well as the Magic Eye Theater space for something smaller. I might think that they could even put a station/queue for an E-ticket where the Starcade is and build the showbuilding behind Star Tours/Main Street. And we can't forget the real estate in Frontierland. All in all Disney's got a lot of land to work with without the hassle that would come with the Autopia/sub area.
Just for reference, here is the area that the submarine track covers...the yellow circle is where the maintenance bay is:
I won't get into speculation about what may or may not be done with the area, but I thought the map may be helpful to some.
as long as something uses the track. Its a shame to know that Disneyland has a few Dead spots in the park, they should also do something about the old motor boat cruise area. add something there too.