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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    What does he DO on Donald's Boat? There's that upper level with kind of a birds-eye view of MTT, but the entire bottom looks like this:

    One side:

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    The other side. You used to be able to climb a net up to that hole in the ceiling.

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    i love that toontown and riding roger rabbit and gagdet co coaster is why i go there. And exploring the whole toontown as well. it would be nice to see updated toontown too

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    If we're talking about the original incarnation, I have to say there was a lot going for it, particularly visually, but also with some uniquely imagined attractions. But since the beginning, I've always felt they could have done much more in the landscaping department back there. It's one of the places that could have really benefited from more green space and just plain ol' shade. On a hot day, the sun can be positively punishing, so you don't really want to hang out and enjoy the otherwise beautifully crafted land.

    This is an facet that Bug's Land gets right -- not necessarily an e-ticket destination, but a gorgeous, whimiscal oasis, on the way from one land to another, with some great, quick little diversions for the kiddos (and kid-like grown-ups).

    MTT has always felt a little like a dead-end cul de sac (granted, a nifty lookin' cul de sac, with one of the better dark rides). If it was a conduit to something else (which I understand it doesn't have the real estate to be), or had a killer restaurant back there, or some other draw, I don't think it'd feel so like such a ghost town. As is, (and increasingly, as it becomes more diluted from it's original intent) it's kind of missable. The last two times we've visited the park (grown ups and teens) we haven't set foot in MTT.

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    I haven't been to Toontown since I was like, ten. I am not kidding. I had no idea they got rid of all that stuff! Boo. I think originally it was pretty fun, but again, I was a kid. Kind of a shame my kid (well, baby, he's only three months old) won't be able to enjoy it when he's older like I did. My mom likes Toontown, though. When my husband, my mom and I went, my mom hadn't been to the park in ten years, so she hung out in Toontown watching all the kids and meeting Mickey and whatnot, which I find hysterical.

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    Yeah like most have said it is currently lacking. And the poster who said that there was no room to enhance the land is right about there not really being room for expansion into backstage. However, there is room for expansion into currently vacant locations inside the land. The West side of Toontown could almost entirely (except for the coaster) be redone to add one or two quality rides and at least two or three smaller meet and greets. Mickey's house takes up enough room for a small dark ride just by itself! Going a little of topic here but I would fix it by doing the following.

    1. Demolish Goofy's house, Donald's boat, Chip and Dale's tree house, and Mickey's House.

    2. Close GGC and rework the water area underneath the coaster.

    3. Where Donald's boat is, build a new boat ride themed to Donald's sailing adventures. Run bumper boats on a track with water guns used to spray different objects to make them move. Run the track underneath GGC and where Goofy's house is.

    4. Where the planter is next to Goofy's house, build a new Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. This clubhouse would be a small playhouse where guests could use mousecatools to solve riddles.

    5. Mickey's house facade would remain but be a queue for Mickey's Philharmagic (theater built in place of the main building). Mickey could be met after the show where Chip and Dale's tree house is.

    6. In place of the gazebo a new chip and dale tree house would be constructed. It would be much larger with multiple passage ways, 2 slides, a interior sound system that makes it sound like chip and dale are running around the tree house. The large tree house would have huge branches stretching out over the area providing much needed shade.

    7. Redesign Jolly Trolly so it is more lawyer friendly and bring it back.
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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    while Disneyland is all about families having fun together, IMO Toontown should be an exception... it should stay exactly what it is: a place full of simple stuff for small kids to run through and explore up close and at their own pace

    I don't want a toon version of Fantasyland, or some big elaborate E-Ticket ride that will have 90-minute lines

    IMO Toontown is perfect as a bunch of simple stuff where the little kids run around and explore and play at their own pace... and a lot of seating for the adults to rest

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    It's unfortunate but I think they really need to bulldoze this valuable piece of real estate. Once lawyers destroyed every fun element of the land it became useless, Roger Rabbit Cartoon Spin not included. As others have said, in it's original form Toontown was fun and had a purpose, not anymore. If Disney is thinking about removing the Subs, Autopia, and Innoventions, what makes Toontown exempt from this treatment?

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by phantasmic View Post
    while Disneyland is all about families having fun together, IMO Toontown should be an exception... it should stay exactly what it is: a place full of simple stuff for small kids to run through and explore up close and at their own pace

    I don't want a toon version of Fantasyland, or some big elaborate E-Ticket ride that will have 90-minute lines

    IMO Toontown is perfect as a bunch of simple stuff where the little kids run around and explore and play at their own pace... and a lot of seating for the adults to rest
    agreed, my 4 yo daughter loves toon town. The gadget go coaster was her first roller coaster when she was 2. She loves going through the houses and climbing all the stuff.

    I agree with another poster that since it is designed for kids, it needs more shade. I really enjoy toontown, although we typically spend less than an hour there

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    Toontown is a great concept but they havent done anything with it since it opened in the early 90's. They could easily add a Oswald darkride etc, there are a ton of possibilities but for some reason they decided to let the land sit there and rot.

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by phantasmic View Post
    while Disneyland is all about families having fun together, IMO Toontown should be an exception... it should stay exactly what it is: a place full of simple stuff for small kids to run through and explore up close and at their own pace

    I don't want a toon version of Fantasyland, or some big elaborate E-Ticket ride that will have 90-minute lines

    IMO Toontown is perfect as a bunch of simple stuff where the little kids run around and explore and play at their own pace... and a lot of seating for the adults to rest
    See this is what I don't get....why would we make expectations now? You don't get classic rides like Pirates, or HM...by playing it to only children

    I also think Parents really underestimate there own children's intelligentsia by saying they need "little" rides......I know I loved HM and Splash at 4 years old..why would kids born today be anything different? Kids want quality just as much as adults
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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrodDRagon View Post
    See this is what I don't get....why would we make expectations now? You don't get classic rides like Pirates, or HM...by playing it to only children

    I also think Parents really underestimate there own children's intelligentsia by saying they need "little" rides......I know I loved HM and Splash at 4 years old..why would kids born today be anything different? Kids want quality just as much as adults
    Radiator Springs Racers is another example of a big quality ride that kids LOVE.

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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    ^yeah...the Racers...is kinda kidded down compared to HM or Pirates...less adult themes for sure.....but it's not the worst either just a Big E ticket dark ride...just WAY more for kids then older attractions were
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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    I like ToonTown, but there isn't a lot to do. I agree that the loss of the things for kids to actually *do* something is tragic, but I wish they would do something to replace them. The tiny playground isn't the same as having the stuff on the boat be functional. Or the bounce house, which is gone and not replaced.

    The middle of TT is pretty, but kind of barren. A couple of little food places and the wonderful silly water fountains, but it *feels* empty. I never got to see the Jolly Trolley working and it's sad just sitting there.

    I love both the fountains and the sight gags, but that's only good for a few minutes. It's a fun place to do some sketching, though I don't always bring a sketchpad. The detail and the theming are grand, but it needs to *do* something.


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    Also, can we have multi-layered attractions? One layer for small children, another layer for older kids, and a final layer for teens or adults. Like Pirates: every age group sees something different, which is fantastic.

    But things like Gadget's Coaster really don't appeal to many people other than little kids. If it had something visual or some joke, or something, that might make it more appealing.
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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    I like toon town but for me 2 things would improve it. More shade even in the form of fake toon trees. And a major dark ride based on the old mickey cartoons.
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    Re: In hind site is Toontown that bad?

    If they ever really wanted to add an E-ticket attraction to MTT their best (and really only) option would be to build it in a show-building where the Fantasyland Theatre currently is and have the facade/entrance be in MTT with a passage underneath the railroad. There's just not enough room to build something else back there otherwise, the backstage areas are already fairly cramped and the dead spaces in MTT (Trolly storage, Treehouse, Donald's/Goofy's in their current states) are too spread out and small to build a ride on. Further constructing a ride like this would allow them to get over the firework problem, by having an unadvertised back-entrance to ride on the Fantasyland side they could use between 8 and 10 each night.

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