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There is plenty of room in ABL/ITTBAB and the empty space behind the CL rockwork. The blue shows the reasonable amount of space that could potentially be developed. I also threw in the IJA building in the big area behind the CL rockwork for size comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by disneylandreport
I love the idea, but do we have to have another vintage area in the park?
We have Hollywoodland and Buena Vista Street, already.
It's California Adventure, not Vintageland.
I am an adult and I love bugs land. I would actually be crushed if they took out heimlichs chew chew train ....I call it the smellovision ride
Totally inaccurate I know, but whatever.
You took the words right out of my mouth! (Including calling Heimlich's Chew Chew Train "smellovision"!)Quote:
I am an adult and I love bugs land. I would actually be crushed if they took out heimlichs chew chew train ....I call it the smellovision ride
Bug's Land is such a fantastic oasis in DCA...the perfect contrast to the arid geography of most of the rest of the park. I find it utterly charming, a gorgeous example of Disney's masterful landscaping and theming.
Well the Pier...is based in the past tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Chesire
And...well what do you mean Disneyland besides Tommorrowland and Toontown are based on "Pasted" lands...Frontier..Adventure...Main Street..New Orleans...Critter Country...and Fantasyland...and it works out well that people like going where you can't go and if it's based off a cool part of History its a plus
Disney already tried current day California and that didn't work. The key to making a successful land/attraction is transporting guests to an area they can't otherwise go. You can go visit a real seaside amusement park, or the Golden Gate Bridge, or the Palace of Fine Arts. But you can't visit 1920s Los Angeles, an early 1900s pier, or Radiator Springs anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chesire
They key to DCA's success will be representing different eras of California's history in an idealized way.
Which is probably what they've should've done in the first place. Now if only they could only do something that would represent Old Spanish California. I'm thinking of a certain masked avenger in a certain TV show that Disney once produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by disneylandfan95
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Originally Posted by Chesire
Uuuuh. Now that you mention it you've kind of got a point. As mentioned above the "modern day California" didn't work but that doesn't mean that doing the opposite ( old timey lands ) is the key to success either. Old Hollywood, Old California Aircraft flats, Old California beach pier park, Old Cannery Row type wharf.... I feel bad for missing this obviousness.
That blue section on the map can/should either:
1) Continue to be a children's themed oasis, away from the bustle of adults
2) be something else Pixar
3) be the place that Marvel attractions go, but please keep Marvel out of DL itself. That's Walt's Fantasyland, not Stan Lee's.
What made BL a nice hangout for families with small kids was its secluded location. Now that it's a pass-through and 90% of the peeps there are just speeding on by to get somewhere, it's not nearly as endearing.
I agree Bugsland has over stayed its welcome. It is a hold over from the Eisner Era of cheap fixes with off the shelf attractions.
Two parts of California's heritage is its hispanic and chinese cultures. Both groups have had a large impact on the development of California. Perhaps a good transition from Carthay Circle and Hollywood land would be a split of China Town and for lack of a better title, Zoro Square. Both would fit into the current blueprint. Where It's Tough to be a Bug is located would be great for a small little China Town. Little shops and and a feature restaurant utilizing Walt's idea for a China Town off of Main Street. With the current technology exhibited at the last D23 Expo with the interactive audio animatronic/ facial recognition character. Walt had a great idea with a chinese restaurant with a Confucius character providing witticisms and fortune cookie advice. Multiple dining spaces within the restaurant could provide a more personable dining experience.
Zorro Square could have a classic e-ticket attraction. shops and garden areas providing shade. putting Zoro Square where the bulk of Bugsland is located would provide a nice transition into Radiator Springs and allow more natural Californian Landscaping.
I know most will shoot down these ideas hoping for some more futuristic attractions or merely saving outdated Bugsland. Part of what makes Disneyland so charming is the multitude of quiet spaces interspersed between hot active ones. New Orleans Square is one of the most popular parts of Disneyland yet its actual footprint in the park is relatively small when it comes to actual guest areas.
I have a feeling the parking lot land behind Radiator Springs Racers and Luigi's has been slated for a permanent Parade building so that WDI can utilize the current building locations as future e-ticket attractions for Paradise Pier.
I think the Rocketeer would fit DCA very well. A movie that's actually set in...........CALIFORNIA! Imagine that!
The Condor Flats theming is one of the things I actually like* about DCA 1.0 and if it's going to Yesterland, I wouldn't mind seeing it somewhere else.
(* except Soarin' could use a more exciting exterior, which I hope the remodel will give it).
The Rocketeer could also fit in Hollywoodland, since the movie also involves Hollywood during that time period (it even features the Hollywoodland sign!)
I didn't know they were planning a remake. But I'm sure even if guests weren't familiar with the source material, most people would love to strap on a "rocket pack" and "fly." :)
(Zorro would be perfect for DCA too, but I've read there's some legal wrangling over the character).
Regarding Bugs Land - imagine if Fantasyland was just Dumbo, the Teacups, Casey Jr., and a 3D movie, crammed into a corner between Frontierland and Tomorrowland.
Then again, I still love Toontown for the theming and want it to get new attractions instead of being removed, so I get where the other people are coming from. It just seems like there's so much more you could do with the "size of a bug" concept, even with the outdoor theming (the ITTBAB lobby is great, though). That's what Pixar movies are usually all about - seeing our world from a different perspective - and that's why they so seldom fit into regular Disneyland lands, which are usually about transporting you to another time, or an imaginary world.
Aside from bugs land the whole east side of Paradise Pier needs to be reimagineered. its really lacking. the goofys sky school is so sketchy i never ride it from fear that it might shatter into a million pieces. Those jellyfish things are ridiculous. I dont mind the swings or the zephyr so much but it just seems that no one is ever on that side of ca adventure.
Yep, and different eras isn't primarily in the 1920s - 1940s.Quote:
Originally Posted by disneylandfan95
what a great idea. that would be so cool.
If you click on "reply with quote" it'll be easier to tell which idea you liked the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by victoriaskitten