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    Thumbs down Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the park.

    This is coming from a teen.

    When I recently was on a trip to Disneyland with my school, I was embarrassed to be part of my group, at times. They were singing at the top of their lungs, shouting profanities, and just being super disruptive to the other guests. This could be fine at school, but not in Disneyland. Parents shouldn't be worried about 7th graders shouting inappropriate things in front of their small children on theDisneyland Railroad (which my group did.) Sure, maybe it'd be a tad bit more acceptable in line at California Screaming, or Tower of Terror, but Disney shouldn't be letting kids say those things with small children around them.

    I'm not sure if they've ever had to threaten a group with expulsion from the park, but that should be the case. Whether it be with security cameras placed in rides, or cast members disguised as normal guests, these kids need to be kept under control, and have to face serious consequences if they go too far. It's a disgrace, seeing people behave this way with shirts that read my school's name.

    Does anyone know if Disney has set up any sort of thing to keep school groups behaved during their visit? If they haven't, I real think the time is now.
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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    This is exactly why I'm glad I didn't have grad night. It's heartbreaking to see people my age so darn immature. I'm in grad school now, but lets just say I was much more mature than most people my age. It's embarrassing. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if there's much they can do about it since it's so widespread.
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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    I've been in a similar situation where i've been embarrassed by my group but Disney has a lot more importation operational details to work out than baby-sitting 7th graders. If your group was bad enough then security usually would be involved pretty quickly.


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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    I know that high schools have been banned permanently from Grad Night. I don't know if any school groups have been banned or thrown out during day visits. I don't really think it's Disney's job to police the behavior of school groups, however. I wouldn't mind requiring more chaperones, but they generally don't follow their groups around the park. Ultimately it's up to the school, so I think the people who need to take responsibility are the school leaders.

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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    I'm not into the big manners thing, but a big problem with society today is the fact that people don't know how to properly "carry themselves" in a decent, professional manner. Unfortunately most of the younger bunch (oh lets say 25 and under) have trouble acting decently and they themselves make not only make themselves but everyone else in their generation look like morons who can't act properly in public.

    I'm 23 and having idiotic people in my age range act like 4 year olds is really upsetting.

    I know that when it comes to grad nights, there is a zero tolerance policy. You act up in any way and you're sent packing.
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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneytwins View Post
    You act up in any way and you're sent packing.
    And this is how I truly think Disneyland should be every day.
    Fear of the unknown.

    They are afraid of new ideas.

    They are loaded with prejudices, not based upon any reality, but based on if something is new, I reject it immediately because its frightening to me. What they do instead is just stay with the familiar.
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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    This is awful. I haven't seen on my last DLR trip, but over the past ten yrs or so, I have seen it all SoCal parks. Luckily, DL/DCA least of all.

    My first reaction, start recording. Then off to City Hall, and maybe youtube for a quick upload plus an email to the school w/ the link. I wish more ppl would ''out'' these punks to get something done about it (using their phones/vids).

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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    Quote Originally Posted by JMazz View Post
    This is awful. I haven't seen on my last DLR trip, but over the past ten yrs or so, I have seen it all SoCal parks. Luckily, DL/DCA least of all.

    My first reaction, start recording. Then off to City Hall, and maybe youtube for a quick upload plus an email to the school w/ the link. I wish more ppl would ''out'' these punks to get something done about it (using their phones/vids).
    Unfortunately, in the times of reality television and young people seeking their 15 minutes of pseudo-fame, this might be more of an encouragement to act out than a deterant. People who act out like that are seeking attention and don't seem to be bothered by the opinions of others. This generation (some, not all) don't seem to be embarassed by being shamed like we did when we were that age. (sheesh, I sound OLD!)

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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    Quote Originally Posted by Escape2Disney View Post
    Unfortunately, in the times of reality television and young people seeking their 15 minutes of pseudo-fame, this might be more of an encouragement to act out than a deterant. People who act out like that are seeking attention and don't seem to be bothered by the opinions of others. This generation (some, not all) don't seem to be embarassed by being shamed like we did when we were that age. (sheesh, I sound OLD!)

    I respectfully disagree. See here (Language Warning):
    Bus Monitor Karen Klein bullied by vile school children - YouTube

    You may have seen this already.
    Even tho this is a more extreme case, if this happens enough (recordings & the public reactions), it will reverse the trend. If it doesn't go viral, notifying the school and "shaming" them will help on a smaller scale. I know for a fact the kids in the video above were all sorry after-the-fact (even if some were only sorry they got caught).

    I teach all ages (from age 12-99), we often use videos during class to help show ppl how "wrong" they are (wrong with a simple task they are learning or wrong regarding their demeanor in class). I really feel it works.

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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    To help strengthen your argument further about kids and teens in the park acting live crazed animals, let me direct you to a post I did quite some time ago.

    http://micechat.com/forums/disneyland-resort/168140-grad-night-kids-how-do-they-affect-your-visit-2.html#post1056790599


    EDIT: But as I've said in my post above, not all of them are bad, just the loud ones that stand out.



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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    I'm sorry Chesire, and I have too had to deal with this problem.
    The whole thing is, is we deal with Disneyland like a 'place' or a part of our own, where we grew to respect it, and we cherish (lol, not pun intended to your screen name) it.
    Maybe in a few years they will take their children to Disneyland, and if the kids get out of line, they will be mature enough to handle that.
    But until then, teens will be teens, and boys will be boys and the only thing to do is to act like an adult and deal with it. It's a shame, but it is a public park, and their ticket is not worth any more less or more than yours.

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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    These are the kind of people that make the stereotype of students and kids being "Rude,Disruptive,Annoying...etc" believable. Yes some of us(since I am a student myself) can be obnoxious in your standards but come on tell me when you ever see a Boring & Dull Child at Disneyland. No one follows rules whether you believe it or not and their was a time when we all were obnoxious at one time or another. Also yes a School has been expelled from a Disney Grad Nite at WDW for pushing a character into the RoA according to a source from the school so now they attend Grad Bash at USO.
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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    I usually hate being associated with my school group if I do go somewhere with my school, because I always know there's going to be some kids that are just plain rude and obnoxious, so it really does send a bad message to everyone if they see people wearing those shirts. I haven't seen obnoxious teenagers in action in Disneyland, but I could totally imagine them being there, unfortunately. As far as Disneyland goes, I rarely see annoying teenagers.
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    Re: Disney needs to re-enforce how they deal with unsupervised school groups in the p

    Quote Originally Posted by TL59 View Post
    I usually hate being associated with my school group if I do go somewhere with my school, because I always know there's going to be some kids that are just plain rude and obnoxious, so it really does send a bad message to everyone if they see people wearing those shirts. I haven't seen obnoxious teenagers in action in Disneyland, but I could totally imagine them being there, unfortunately. As far as Disneyland goes, I rarely see annoying teenagers.
    I rarely see them either only during Grad Nite and in my mind I'm thinking "Meh......They should enjoy themselves in a happy place before a reality check happens and they end up in a sad place called Adulthood!haha" I sometimes am obnoxious to people who have staring problems,talk $#!+(Happened at WoC Long Story), and those people that I just don't like just cause I can. ;p
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