"With the acquisition of Marvel and now of Lucasfilm,
Disney may have finally found the grail. You don't need
imagination or art. All you need is a brand."
- Neil Gabler
[QUOTE=Mr Wiggins;1056850760]Bingo. My prediction, though, is that people will trample over each other to wear these things at the Parks as a status symbol. A badge of membership in an elite club.
Flaunt the gauntlet.. .... They could also add Glow with the Show to it
There was an article just the other day in the OC Register about independent ticket companies selling Disneyland tickets at discounted prices to guests. They referred to it as "ticket rentals". The article states that the ticket companies are not doing anything illegal but that Disney can refuse entry into the park since it violates their own policies.
The article mentioned biometric (fingerprint) systems in use at Sea World and WDW. But a Disneyland spokesperson said that this would not be coming to Disneyland due to "new technology" that is being developed.
This must be that "new technology". Don't think for a minute that this is being done for the enjoyment of the guests. If there wasn't some type of profit involved (in this case money gained through loss prevention) Disney wouldn't even consider it.
Disney is motivated also to distinguish themselves from the pack.. and do so in a way the other parks can't easily copy. Doing so gives them a more unique product they can sell at the prices they want to charge.
Everything is about money eventually - but this isn't just a loss prevention tool.. that's one of the many benefits the digital token will enable. There are many many many more possibilities... some guest features, some convenience, some operational gains, and some business model gains. This is just an enabling technology which Disney will be able to build new features, new capabilities, and new values upon for many years to come.
After all.. that's why the whole thing was labeled 'NextGen' and not just 'TicketCop'
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This could be something that both Disney and guests could enjoy. Just because something will make money doesn't automatically mean It's not for the convenience of the guest. The guests have the money, and Disney needs to provide new services that the guests will like and then provide that service/product.
Of course they want money. Is that bad? I business needs profit to service Providing a service that will help guests and keep Disney from losing money is a win win situation. companies need to do this.
Everything comes down to money. Some of the things that you would never realize are there to make money. Disney has been doing it since the beginning. No company is going to start making snickerdoodles for 10 cents and sell them for 10 cents just for the pure joy of it.
DisneyTwins
Since May 2003
Let's turn it around. Why are you so eager to let everyone know where you've been and what you're doing at any given moment? Why do you assume anyone who doesn't want to be tracked must be hiding something? I'm not hiding anything; I just think some things are NONE OF THEIR D--N BUSINESS!
Oh, look, he's in the bathroom. Wow, 15 minutes in there. Wonder what's going on.
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How do you go shopping if you don't want people knowing what your doing?
RFID's have a two foot range anyway. It's no different than swiping your ticket at a FP machine or a Turnstyle. The idea that they can find your location at any time using RFID is useless worrying.
DisneyTwins
Since May 2003
Yes, Disney will be spending their resources on tracking the bathroom usage of the average guest and then judging those guests based on that information. Some of us are not necessarily "eager" to let people know what we're doing at every point in time, but we're just not completely defensive about it. If Disney wants to know the popularity of such and such, then I'm more than willing to not change a thing about my habits in the park besides put on a bracelet to let them know that.
You're being sarcastic, aren't you?
I doubt that's their intention...just like I doubt the TSA really intended their scanners to be used as a free strip show. And yet that's just what happened earlier this year.
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I think people are too quick to dismiss this because of who's doing it. If it was Microsoft or Homeland Security or Ralph's making people wear these things, you'd probably think it was creepy, but since it's our pal, good ol' Mickey, it's okay.
Once again, the "but I have nothing to hide" argument.Some of us are not necessarily "eager" to let people know what we're doing at every point in time, but we're just not completely defensive about it. If Disney wants to know the popularity of such and such, then I'm more than willing to not change a thing about my habits in the park besides put on a bracelet to let them know that.
Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education
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RFIDs aren't useful for tracking people's movements. Only when they check in with the device themselves.
Everything you do on the internet is tracked by your ISP, Everything that you purchase online is tracked by the company. Every purchase you make is tracked by the bank. Everywhere in public you go has surveillance. You're already tracked everywhere you go in public by someone. How is "swiping a chip" any different? I mean you already do it when you enter the park and get a Fastpass except they are now using chips instead of magnetic strips.
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That's not the point. Disney making profits isn't the issue. It's how they make the profits that is being debated.
Again, off the point. Reread the OP -- this gadget isn't a passive RFID chip, it's a radio transmitter that broadcasts to a wireless infrastructure.
"With the acquisition of Marvel and now of Lucasfilm,
Disney may have finally found the grail. You don't need
imagination or art. All you need is a brand."
- Neil Gabler
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