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    Question The location of the Grand Californian

    Why did they build it in that location? They took up precious real estate that could have been used in the future to expand DCA. Another person brought up a point that it should have been built where Paradise Pier is. So much space back there..

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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    It is a big waste of space. It also contributes to the awkward and lopsided feel you get navigating DCA. I guess to them it was worth it to be able to capitalize on charging a premium for being able to "stay in the park."
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    Poor planning all around since few involved in the building of DCA back in the turn of the century expected that DCA would require much much more expansion and land. However the Grand Californian would've worked in its current location had it been laid out properly with the right amount of execution. Look how Tokyo DisneySea's Hotel Miracosta is cleverly built into TDS. Another example is the Disneyland Paris hotel that resides as the gateway into DLP. Either one of these layout would've benefited GCH alot better given the limited land space.
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    I believe the Grand Californian has the highest occupancy rate of any of the 3 Disney Hotels. It rakes in high dollars for Disney. That's all that matters.
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    I'm fine with it. The theme blends alright with the GRR area.
    I think the Paradise Pier Hotel is more of an eyesore.
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    I agree the placement is horrible. I don't mind that it's so close to the park but it made th elayout of DCA so awkward. Seems like if they thought about it more they could have done a lot better placement.

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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikefutbolero View Post
    Why did they build it in that location? They took up precious real estate that could have been used in the future to expand DCA. Another person brought up a point that it should have been built where Paradise Pier is. So much space back there..
    A stated goal of the building of GCH was to provide a place for people to stay "inside" a theme park. The success of the Hotel has certainly proven that goal to be a worthy one.

    As far as the hope by the OP that expansion space could have been provided, I don't see how that would have been possible. The expansion that took place at the turn of the millenium required the conversion of money-making enterprises (chiefly the parking lot and peripheral Disneyland Hotel businesses) into different money-making enterprises (DCA, DtD, GCH). It would have been too "expensive" to leave "space" around DCA for "future" expansion.
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

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    A stated goal of the building of GCH was to provide a place for people to stay "inside" a theme park. The success of the Hotel has certainly proven that goal to be a worthy one.
    I like staying "inside" the park, so the GCH makes me visit DLR more often.
    The location creates an uninterrupted vacation from check-in to check-out, and completely forget about the "real world" outside the resort.
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikefutbolero View Post
    Why did they build it in that location? They took up precious real estate that could have been used in the future to expand DCA. Another person brought up a point that it should have been built where Paradise Pier is. So much space back there..

    wait what? no there is not ..umm behind PPH is DLH and next to that is some other building i can't name right now..but there is not enough room, i think the location GCH is now is perfect. i don't think it would of fit in any better anywhere else

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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    I always thought they should have enveloped/hidden the Idiana Jones building with the backside of the hotel, entrance facing the original DLH entrance area, creating a monorail stop for both.



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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    It doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering the diagram that's out there showing the Disneyland Resort expansion if Westcot had been built. That diagram shows Westcot with its own version of Spaceship Earth, along with several hotels, the Disneyland Bowl, a Downtown Disney shopping type area, and expanded monorail system. I think Westcot was also supposed have its own hotel incorporated similar to how Tokyo Disney Sea has the Hotel Mira Costa incorporated into it. One nice thing about the GCH's placement is the location with the monorail going through the courtyard. It definitely makes a case about how monorails can quietly pass through even a hotel where people rest and relax. The hotel also makes a nice backdrop in the Grizzly Peak area.

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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    Although advertised that way, I never thought of Grand Californian as being IN the theme park. It was a great location, however. The biggest problem I had with it was the expansion for the Vacation Club villas, since that really, imho, took some prime real estate that could have been used for impressive expansion.

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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

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    I never thought of Grand Californian as being IN the theme park.
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    The biggest problem I had with it was the expansion for the Vacation Club villas, since that really, imho, took some prime real estate that could have been used for impressive expansion.
    The Villas at the Grand Californian is an impressive expansion.

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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    I love the location of the Grand. I've never stayed there though as it's costs a pretty penny, but maybe one day!
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    Re: The location of the Grand Californian

    It was built (in part) as part of their vacation club and to sell it easier it needed to be close to at least one of the two parks. The paradise pier area was a little too far out for that I think. It's location is pretty good. Middle of DTD, with direct access to DCA and close access to a monorail station. I doubt the considered "but we could put more DCA here" as part of the design plan when mapping it out, and honestly I don't think that should have been a consideration.

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