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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    Well then what are they going to do for a third park, if they ever build one, if they are already using Marvel stuff in the current parks?
    Why does putting Iron Man in Tomorrowland preclude the possibility of a Marvel park or use of Marvel in a 3rd park? Or why must a 3rd park be a Marvel park at all?

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Well judging by the post this new e ticket one of a kind ride shouldn't have a long wait since half if not more of you will not be riding it. Makes the wait time better for me.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomorrowland_1967 View Post
    If the "voices" not in favor of Marvel in Disneyland want to make a difference ... you all need to write to whoever you know in WDI, or TDA. Just writing here .. and thinking it's going to "magically" be heard by Disney, and make a difference... think twice!

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    1974 .... A letter writing campaign brought back Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln, the following year (1975)

    Since then .... I would say the power of the fan .. has increased several times over!
    I don't know if they are still doing surveys or how it can affect this ride but you can try to find a survey taker at the park and answer the questions on Tomorrowland. This is one way to express your opinions on the land. Here is a thread I made over a week ago. http://micechat.com/forums/disneyland-resort/174617-surveys-tomorrowland.html
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by mondo View Post
    I don't know if they are still doing surveys or how it can affect this ride but you can try to find a survey taker at the park and answer the questions on Tomorrowland. This is one way to expression your opinion on the land. Here is a thread I made over a week ago. http://micechat.com/forums/disneyland-resort/174617-surveys-tomorrowland.html
    Perfect! It is a way for everyone to let them know what a great idea this is.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by d.N.d. View Post
    Well judging by the post this new e ticket one of a kind ride shouldn't have a long wait since half if not more of you will not be riding it. Makes the wait time better for me.
    In that case Disney will shut it down due to lack of popularity.

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    ^or they will scrap this idea and leave innoventions for another 5+ years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    In that case Disney will shut it down due to lack of popularity.
    Then we will be stuck with universal and their marvel rides. The irony!!!
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomorrowland_1967 View Post
    After seeing all three films .. in which Tony Stark has displayed .. on thousands of movie screens for a few years (especially in Iron Man 2) ... is his drunken, egotistical, arrogant ways ..... What exactly does Disney intend to do with this very prominent image of Tony Stark??
    Have you ever watched the original Mickey Mouse cartoons. The ones where Walt actually did the voice. The ones where he was still his original character: the mischievous, troublemaking trickster who performed quite macabre pranks on the other characters. Or the original Donald Duck: who was petty, selfish, vindictive and quick to anger?

    The need for modern Disney to soften the edge of its characters in the name of family wholesomeness is infuriating. This is the type of stuff late-era Walt pulled in his animation that lost him all of his artistic credibility. It broke the very edict early Walt abided by: to not disrespect his younger audience by dumbing down or sugar-coating the work.

    Tony Stark is a drunken, egotistical, arrogant (and I would add stubborn) character. Show him as a drunken, egotistical, arrogant, stubborn character. Don't insult your audience, thinking they can't handle it. They can, the kids will be alright.

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    For everybody thinking this might be a big budget type of ride, here is something to chew on
    from Jay Rasulo and Bob Iger:

    As it opens new attraction, Disney prepares to cut capital spending

    But it also marks the crest of a $6 billion wave of capital spending across Disney's U.S. theme-park and resort holdings. And senior Disney executives now vow to cut back.


    "We should be coming down substantially — substantially — in domestic spending," Disney Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo said during a recent presentation to stock analysts.


    "We don't have any other big projects right now" in the U.S., Disney President and Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger said during a separate presentation. The lone exception, Iger added, is a "land" planned for Disney's Animal Kingdom based on the movie"Avatar,"which isn't expected to open until at least 2016.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by christianAdam View Post
    WHAT IS AN ORIGIANL CONCEPT?!?!?!?

    NO concept that Disneyland has done is original! Every.single.ride.and.attraction. has had an influence from something else whether it be a movie or in literature there is nothing original about it. You trying to tell me that Disneyland influneced hollywood to make movies about pirates and influenced writers to write books on piracy and the romanticism that surrounds them?

    I didn't know that there was NO such things as ghosts before Disney created the Haunted Mansion? No ghost stories, no horror films, no nothing but it was ORIGINALLY created by Disney, right?!

    I'm so sick of the "Original attractions" being constantly thrown around. The only thing original about the rides constantly mentioned is the technology that was used to make the ride. the concept is NOT I repeat NOT original! The only ride that has the ability to claim originality, other than its a small world for Audio Animatronics, is The Matterhorn for being the first steel tubed rollercoaster.

    Haunted house - not an original concept
    Pirates - not an original concept
    Safari cruise - not an original concept
    Train rides - not an original concept

    EVERYTHING COMES FROM SOMETHING. THERE IS ALWAYS AN INFLUENCE! Whether its found in movies or literature there is something else that drives it. Therefore to call it an original is not true, it may be original because it was built in Disneyland before it was built somewhere else but the concept and material used to make that ride comes from another source.
    So because the basic foundation of Pirates and Haunted Mansion use existing themes in history means that they are unoriginal? Give me a break... You are totally glazing over the fact that the characters, story, setting, music composition, ride system, technology, and art are all original in full. Your statement is quite honestly laughable if you think that trying to purposely diminish the revolutionary achievements of WED will make Stark Expo seem any better than the uncreative, lazy, and greedy concept that it is. Just because you have given up fighting for Disney's values and want to compromise, doesn't mean all of us want to. I find what Walt Disney bestowed upon us to be priceless, I refuse to see it destroyed for a cheap thrill or short-term profit boost.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Chesire View Post
    I'm sorry, what? I thought Walt built the park so that adults and children could have fun and create memories together, not so that educated professors could analyze the cultural impact of Disneyland on modern America.
    Well, I guess I should have said it "appealed" to great intellectual minds of the time, as well as kids and families.

    Unfortunately, the place has been so dumbed-down to appeal to a mass audience that this is no longer the case.

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by christianAdam View Post
    WHAT IS AN ORIGIANL CONCEPT?!?!?!?

    NO concept that Disneyland has done is original! Every.single.ride.and.attraction. has had an influence from something else whether it be a movie or in literature there is nothing original about it. You trying to tell me that Disneyland influneced hollywood to make movies about pirates and influenced writers to write books on piracy and the romanticism that surrounds them?

    I didn't know that there was NO such things as ghosts before Disney created the Haunted Mansion? No ghost stories, no horror films, no nothing but it was ORIGINALLY created by Disney, right?!

    I'm so sick of the "Original attractions" being constantly thrown around. The only thing original about the rides constantly mentioned is the technology that was used to make the ride. the concept is NOT I repeat NOT original! The only ride that has the ability to claim originality, other than its a small world for Audio Animatronics, is The Matterhorn for being the first steel tubed rollercoaster.

    Haunted house - not an original concept
    Pirates - not an original concept
    Safari cruise - not an original concept
    Train rides - not an original concept

    EVERYTHING COMES FROM SOMETHING. THERE IS ALWAYS AN INFLUENCE! Whether its found in movies or literature there is something else that drives it. Therefore to call it an original is not true, it may be original because it was built in Disneyland before it was built somewhere else but the concept and material used to make that ride comes from another source.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    I'm just glad it's not Lone Ranger. I was dreading another attraction with Depp around every corner.


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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    I'm just a purist and I think a land should have a clearly defined theme and the attractions in that land should be related to that theme. And I see Tomorrowland, which long ago had a theme as defined by Walt Disney, as having lost the theme and now being just a collection of miscellaneous attractions. And the addition of another attraction, unrelated to any of the others, is simply a continuation of that trend. I would rather see them pick a theme for the land and unify it so that the attractions are related to it, at least tangentially, and unify the look and feel of the land so that when you are there you really feel like you are in it and you are living that theme. Tomorrowland no longer has that feeling.

    I'm also a purist in that I don't like having non-Disney films encroaching on Disneyland and I'm still against the idea of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones films being represented within Disneyland as they were not made by Disney and not owned by Disney. As far as the third park, I think there is still a perception that Disneyland is primarily for kids. A friend of mine refuses to go there, saying "Disneyland is for under 8 and over 80" but he will happily go to Magic Mountain. So for a third park I think Disney really needs to focus on that market they may be missing out on, teenagers and young adults that seek big thrills and action and the Marvel brand fits that better than the Disney or Pixar brands do.

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianAdam View Post
    seriously, it surprises me the amount of discontent and disgust people have with Marvel. Most I'm sure have not picked up a comic or have actually taken the time to research and learn about its creators like Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
    As a comic book reader, I am still not super stoked. I am biased though, I love DC and am not a huge Marvel fan (BTW the New 52 Aquaman is fantastic!).

    Quote Originally Posted by G24T View Post
    All I'm gonna say about this subject is this: If having Marvel in the parks means that we get something going on the People Mover track again (and there's plenty of track space up there for a friggin load/unload station) then not only will I buy a thousand dollars worth of useless Marvel merchandise on opening day but I will kiss, literally kiss every square foot of the floor of the queue leading up to the vehicle!
    Sorry, that just isn't going to happen..

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    For everybody thinking this might be a big budget type of ride, here is something to chew on
    from Jay Rasulo and Bob Iger:

    As it opens new attraction, Disney prepares to cut capital spending

    But it also marks the crest of a $6 billion wave of capital spending across Disney's U.S. theme-park and resort holdings. And senior Disney executives now vow to cut back.


    "We should be coming down substantially — substantially — in domestic spending," Disney Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo said during a recent presentation to stock analysts.


    "We don't have any other big projects right now" in the U.S., Disney President and Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger said during a separate presentation. The lone exception, Iger added, is a "land" planned for Disney's Animal Kingdom based on the movie"Avatar,"which isn't expected to open until at least 2016.
    It looks like he was talking about entire new lands being built, not individual rides. Even if the design team would be given free rein with this one, it wouldn't be the same large-scale budget that was given to Cars Land or the expanded Fantasyland.
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