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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

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    They could theme it to Dora the Explorer or Bugs Bunny for all I care.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    A castle that was built in 1955. I am talking about the now.
    All of Fantasyland's movie tie in dark rides were built at the prime of the park, but I don't recall people saying it was 'going overboard' then

    Why does it matter now if it didn't matter then?
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    Marvel is MORE Disney than Star Tours or Indy or even Roger Rabbit.
    I love it when moderators post blatant opinions as if they're facts. Explain how Marvel is MORE Disney then Star Wars or Indy or Roger Rabbit. Please, I want to hear it. Explain your divine logic to the micechat forum.

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    There have ALWAYS been movie tie-in's and rides based on movies at Disneyland.

    Surprisingly everybody always gives EPCOT grief for their rides, etc ... but other than Nemo there are no rides based on movies. And as far as Nemo, the interaction with an actual aquarium elevates that attraction immensely.
    Who gives Epcot grief? Not me. I think Epcot is one of the best Disney parks here in the USA due to the non-proliferation of tie-ins and original attractions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyFan1 View Post
    I love it when moderators post blatant opinions as if they're facts. Explain how Marvel is MORE Disney then Star Wars or Indy or Roger Rabbit. Please, I want to hear it. Explain your divine logic to the micechat forum.
    Disney owns Marvel, it does not own any Lucasfilm Properties, and Roger Rabbit was a joint venture.

    So yes by rights of ownership, it is more Disney than the others
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    Hmm, lets see, Spiderman ride=Universal. Hulk ride=Universal. Dr Doom ride=Universal. Yeah, I don't see where I'm coming from either.

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    Yes, I expect Universal to add movie tie-ins, but Disney is going way overboard with them.
    so you are suggesting the Disney would make clones of these rides?

    IOA was built when comics was far from popular and were trying to copy what six-flags was doing with WB/DC.

    With the enormous popularity of nerd-culture now; comic-con, NYCC, Comickaze, Wondercon, Big Bang Theory, Marvel Movies destroying the box office...things would be a little different.

    Yeah I don't think Disney would slap a plywood sign over a roller coaster and call it a done deal.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wren View Post
    All of Fantasyland's movie tie in dark rides were built at the prime of the park, but I don't recall people saying it was 'going overboard' then

    Why does it matter now if it didn't matter then?
    Because that's all we get now. Back then it evened out.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    I'm confused. How precisely does the ...long, long ago galaxy of Star Wars fit into Tomorrowland anyway? And let's not even begin to debate the merits of whether Michael Jackson should have a presence inside any Disney Park.

    As much as I like some of the attractions associated with Lucas, I can't help but feel like they are hostile, obnoxious intruders in the context of Disneyland Park or Magic Kingdom. Like booze, I could care less if these are at DHS or DCA or AK or Epcot... but the Disneyland of my youth (1970 - 1985) should not have these outside franchises encroaching on my nostalgia or the purity of Walt Disney's vision for Disneyland, in particular.

    Marvel...

    Marvel.

    Marvel.

    I don't think this much belongs in Disneyland either. I don't really care if Disney is the releasing studio for Marvel Studios or not. It isn't Disney.

    The idea of a Stark Expo (and Howard Stark, of course) is certainly appealing, probably because it feels really familiar for anyone who has seen Walt's TV opens and wraparound sequences from the 50's and 60's. Or anyone with knowledge of his very real involvement in the World's Fair, which was a testbed for much of what would become permanent attractions at Disneyland (e.g., Presidents, Pirates, small world, Carousel of Progress).

    Walt Disney's Original Plan for EPCOT - Part 2 - YouTube

    Stark Expo 74 - YouTube

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    Because that's all we get now. Back then it evened out.
    Did it?
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wren View Post
    Did it?
    Yep. Tell me what the expansion of 1959 brought that was a movie tie-in? How about the Tomorrowland of 1967? How about the addition of New Orleans Square?
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    I just wish they seemed to have an overall Tomorrowland strategy instead of "put a new ride here, put a new ride there".

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Wren View Post
    Disney owns Marvel, it does not own any Lucasfilm Properties, and Roger Rabbit was a joint venture.

    So yes by rights of ownership, it is more Disney than the others
    I didn't see "rights of ownership" mentioned anywhere in that post. I heard an overtly broad declaration that Marvel was more Disney then the other properties.

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by christianAdam View Post
    so you are suggesting the Disney would make clones of these rides?

    IOA was built when comics was far from popular and were trying to copy what six-flags was doing with WB/DC.

    With the enormous popularity of nerd-culture now; comic-con, NYCC, Comickaze, Wondercon, Big Bang Theory, Marvel Movies destroying the box office...things would be a little different.

    Yeah I don't think Disney would slap a plywood sign over a roller coaster and call it a done deal.
    When Disney builds a Marvel ride in Disneyland, what other park in the US has Marvel?

    Universal.

    What other park in the US has HM, POTC, ST, IJA, SM, etc, etc?

    None.
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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    O good . Glad it's being replaced..it'stime for that change..

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    i thought that Disney owned Iron man

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    Re: Al Report: Iron Man E-Ticket Thril Ride to Replace Innoventions

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    Hmm, lets see, Spiderman ride=Universal. Hulk ride=Universal. Dr Doom ride=Universal. Yeah, I don't see where I'm coming from either.
    I’m glad that you are able to admit that and recant your statement. That is very big of you.

    Other than Spider-Man, the others just generic rides with names and faces slapped on the side. That’s not how Disney does their e-tickets. Pirates has immersive themeing and tons of animatronics, why can’t the Iron Man ride? Radiator Springs Racers combines animatronics and a well-themed indoor environment with an immersive outdoor environment and fun thrills. I would expect no less from Disney with the Iron Man attraction, especially with the free rein being given to the design team.

    Thank you again for seeing it our way, again it takes a very big person to admit when they see the other side's argument more than their own.


    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Olson View Post
    I'm confused. How precisely does the ...long, long ago galaxy of Star Wars fit into Tomorrowland anyway?
    Because humans haven’t advanced to the point where we have interstellar sightseeing tours like they do in the Star Wars universe. It shows something that could be in Man’s future one day when we advance to the point where our technology is the same as that displayed in Star Wars.
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