Seeing Pixar's talking fish underwater definitely isn't my idea of the final frontier for Tomorrowland. I like that the submarines and lagoon is part of Tomorrowland though, because it explores the idea that our future not only lies in the stars, but here on Earth as well.
As for Autopia, it could definitely take a new look. I would say the Autopia we have now is the gritty future. It's the bleak outlook that humanity will depend on fossil fuels in the foreseeable future. :eek:
and of course these things are not affordable, BUT they exist in our current timeline.
much like space travel, but last I heard, it was possible and has been happening for a couple years now.
strike that, submarine tours are affordable to the general public.
Submarines itself obviously aren't futuristic, but it's the concept of the ride and its purpose that is. To explore the unknown depths of our seas. Now 20,000 Leagues(gritty) conveyed this so much better than Nemo. Other than the fish-sonar, (which is just an excuse to plug Finding Nemo in) I don't see the "future" in a storybook ride though Australian waters.
I prefer a clean, shining look for Tomorrowland.
They may exist in the present, but do not have the widespread use and affordability that the Nemo subs are portraying.
Much like your space travel example, while rockets do exist today, I don't think I can just board one for a casual trip around the solar system.
the facade of innoventions is already dirty
I'm definitely in the clean, idealized version of the future camp. That's one of the things I love most about the parks is the cleanliness. This should be especially so for Tomorrowland. That should be the cleanest of all lands.
I voted clean. I feel like a clean look fits Disneyland better and it helps give a sense of optimism for the future. However, a gritty attraction within Tomorrowland might be cool- maybe it could be done in the style of The Haunted Mansion, where the outside is clean and the inside (the actual ride portion) has some grittiness to it.
Another idea- if Disney decides to expand their Halloween offerings, maybe they could have the clean Tomorrowland transformed into a gritty version for October (preferably at nighttime for the best effect). They could expand the story of Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy where the ghost(s) have invaded all of Tomorrowland, which would give the gritty look some purpose. This could be acheived using projection technology, similar to what Universal Orlando has used for their scare zones during Halloween Horror Nights. Not to mention that they already use projections on Space Mountain itself for Ghost Galaxy, so it's definitely possible if they can find a clever way to place the projectors and speakers.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent- the gritty look just really appeals to me for a Halloween setting! But for the regular, daytime, year-round Disneyland I would much prefer the clean look.