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    The Joy of Fastpass 2

    The Joy of Fastpass 2



    Welcome to the new Joy of FASTPASS thread designed as an update of the previous thread on this topic to provide you with the latest Fastpass system details. Be sure to check out the official Disneyland Fastpass Page for a basic understanding of how the system works.


    The System Overview

    The Fastpass system is a program created by Disney to allow guests to skip the lines on some of The Disneyland Resort's most popular attractions. Near the entrance of each Fastpass attraction there is a row of machines into which you insert your park ticket. When you get a Fastpass you must either wait until it's return window or two hours (whichever is shorter) before you can obtain a new Fastpass for another attraction. This two hour rule does not apply for the same attraction however, meaning that you cannot obtain a second Fastpass for an attraction until the original is valid to be used. If after inserting your ticket the machine determines that you meet these two criteria it will print you a small piece of paper with a one hour time window to return during. Return to the attraction within the window and you will be allowed to enter a separate Fastpass queue with a much shorter wait.

    Don't worry too much if this seems confusing as the ticket you will receive shows both what time you must return to the attraction and what time you can get another Fastpass clearly on the front. Also note that the number of Fastpasses an attraction will give out for a specific window of time is limited. As people receive Fastpasses, the return window gradually bumps forward in five minute increments. There are large signs at each attraction's Fastpass distribution area to tell you what return window is currently being offered. Some of the more popular attractions will exhaust their entire supply of Fastpasses by around noon on busy days.


    The Tricks

    Now that we have established the basics, there are some finer details about the system that make using it more advantageous.

    First, each of The Disneyland Resort Parks is its own network. This means that obtaining Fastpasses in either Disneyland or Disney California Adventure will not in any way affect getting Fastpasses at the other.

    Second, one or two attractions in each park are also not linked to each of their own park networks. What this means is that these attractions only do the first of the two tests mentioned above (Does this guest have a Fastpass for this attraction already) without checking to see if that guest has another Fastpass for any other attractions. Until recently, this was a "secret" until Radiator Springs Racers Fastpass tickets suddenly began printing with a message telling guests that they are able to acquire another Fastpass Ticket for other attractions right away in December 2012. Note that Disney has in the past changed which attractions were un-networked so this is subject to change.

    Third, World of Color Fastpasses do not affect attraction Fastpasses in any way at either park. So much so that rumors originally suggested that they would not even be called Fastpasses in order to reduce confusion. However, whether it be trademark issues or brand strengthening, Disney chose to go with the same name. Visit this thread for more complete information on World of Color and it's Fastpass system.

    Disneyland
    Disney California Adventure
    Networked Networked
    Big Thunder Mountain** Goofy's Sky School
    Indiana Jones Adventure Soarin' Over California
    Splash Mountain Tower of Terror
    Space Mountain Grizzly River Run**
    Haunted Mansion Holiday* California Screamin'**
    Star Tours
    Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin**
    Autopia**
    Not Networked Not Networked
    Radiator Springs Racers
    Updated November 2013

    *Christmas version Oct through early Jan only. Regular version does not offer Fastpass
    **This attraction has been un-networked in the past

    The last trick is that the expiry return time for Fastpasses does not actually matter (this may be subject to change in the coming months, please read comments on this thread for the best up to date information on whether return times are being upheld). What this means is that if you have a return window for 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm, you can return well after 4:00 pm (say, 9:00 pm) and still be allowed to enter the Fastpass queue. This can have dramatic effects on your visit by allowing you to stock up on Fastpasses for rapid use later on in the evening when queue times tend to be longer.

    In early February 2013, signs showed up at Fastpass distribution areas reminding guests to return within the one hour return window printed on each ticket. This confirmed the rumor that such enforcement was coming to the resort.

    Our Suggestions and an Example

    The biggest suggestion we can give is to get a new Fastpass BEFORE you use your current ones. Once that return window comes around, you are guaranteed the opportunity to get another so you might as well do it before you ride whichever attraction your first Fastpass is for. This is especially true for the non-networked, or independent machines because they only check to make sure that any Fastpasses you have for themselves is already valid for use.


    Example 1
    Using a non-networked attraction Fastpass
    [note: all time are examples only as the offered return times at each point in the day vary day to day]
    Assume that it is now 11:15 am and you hold a valid Fastpass for Roger Rabbit with a return window of 11:05 am to 12:05 pm. Before getting in line, get another for Roger Rabbit. This is possible because this non networked attraction only checks to ensure that any Fastpasses you have for it are already valid and at 11:15 am, the 11:05 am window is already entered. Lets assume that the new Fastpass has a return time of 2:10 pm to 3:10 pm. Ride the attraction and continue touring the park, then when you come back to use your second Fastpass after 2:10, you will now be able to acquire a third before riding!


    Example 2
    Shifting focus, lets see how this works with the rest of the resort. Remember that each park is separate and that once you have a networked Fastpass in either park, you cannot get another until either 2 hours have past or the return time comes around (whichever is earlier).
    Lets say that it is early in the day and you get your first Fastpass at Splash Mt. at 9:25 am. The return time you receive is from 10:20 am to 11:20 am. Because that return time is less than an hour away, your Fastpass ticket informs you that you will be able to get another Fastpass at 10:20 am.

    After touring the park, you find yourself back at Splash Mt. at 10:30. You get a second Splash Mt. Fastpass before riding with a return time window between 2:40 pm and 3:40 pm. Your Fastpass ticket now informs you that your next Fastpass ticket will be available at 12:30 pm (two hours after 10:30) because the 2:40 pm return time is well over two hours away. Remember though that you still will not be able to get a Fastpass for Splash Mt. until 2:40 pm regardless.

    Because it is likely that you don't want to get soaked a third time in one morning, plan ahead! You could grab a Fastpass at Indiana Jones right at 12:30 before walking over to Splash Mt. for your second ride.

    Not enough action? Before you got that Indiana Jones Fastpass at 12:30, hop over to Taste Pilot Grill for an early lunch and Grab a Soarin over California Fastpass while you are there. Remember that your existing Disneyland Fastpasses do not count toward DCA. Then, hop back over and get the Indiana Jones Fastpass as suggested before riding Splash a second time.

    To make this even more complex, you could also have gotten a Radiator Springs Racers (non-networked) Fastpass and still been able to get that Soarnin Over California pass because the non networked attraction doesn't count. If you are a sprinter, you could also have hustled up to Toontown and acquired a Roger Rabbit (un-networked) pass without affecting the other Disneyland Fastpasses you have or planned to get.


    Another thing to consider is Single Rider Passes. If you do not want/need to ride with anyone else, you can use a single rider line at Splash Mt., Grizzly River Run, Soarin' Over California, California Screamin', Goofy's Sky School, The Matterhorn, and Radiator Springs Racers. Single riders are slotted into odd empty seats on attraction vehicles where possible. The idea is that no seats go untaken meaning that those single riders do not have to wait in line themselves. The goal is to bring down wait times if only a little bit. With the exception of Soarin' Over California, single rider wait times are often shorter than Fastpass waits.

    As you can see, the possibilities are endless when you are comfortable with the system. Keep tabs on your Fastpasses and you will be able to get a lot more out of your Disneyland Resort Trip! To sum it all up, remember that there are at least four places you can have Fastpasses from at any one time consisting of a networked and non-networked Fastpass from each Park.

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Wow, there are alot of unnetworked attractions right now.

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Quote Originally Posted by frollofan View Post
    Wow, there are alot of unnetworked attractions right now.
    Yes, the more popular attractions that are not liked or networked (I believe) allows for increased rider flow on other rides, which in return lessens the lines for the unnetworked rides. Just a thheory though.
    Trevor, this is a neat article! I enjoyed reading it and I didn't know how it all worked before I read this. Thank you for the info.

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    I went through and touched it up, but to be honest this is actually just a reformat and rewrite of a thread done by at least two other people before. But thanks for the comment!

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    No problem! ^^
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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Hi guys, quick question, if I went to DCA first thing in the morning and got a FP for Radiator Springs Racers, I would also be able to get a FP for Tower of Terror as Radiator Springs Racers isn't in the network, but seeing as California Screamin isn't in the network either would I be able to get a FP for that too? So would have 3 FPs at the same time?

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett83 View Post
    Hi guys, quick question, if I went to DCA first thing in the morning and got a FP for Radiator Springs Racers, I would also be able to get a FP for Tower of Terror as Radiator Springs Racers isn't in the network, but seeing as California Screamin isn't in the network either would I be able to get a FP for that too? So would have 3 FPs at the same time?
    Yes, that is what you can do with the unnetworked attractions.

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Thanks for the imformation
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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    It says in the original post that you could have a minimum of 4 Fast Passes at once? Don't you meana MAXIMUM of 6?
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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    I would have to check the math for the maximum of six, but I do agree that the sentence you are referring to is awkwardly written.

    It is trying to say that between the two non-networked machines (one in each park) and the two networks for each park, you can have one FP from each of those networks adding up to a minimum of four. I have edited the original post for clarity.


    I am curious though, what do you mean by a maximum of six? If you go on a busy day and get Fastpasses in the late morning for later that night at both parks, there is potential to have more than six Fastpasses in one day.

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    I was under the impression that since there are 2 rides at each park not on network, you could feasibly have a FP for each of them along with 1 on network FP? Totalling 6 if you did it at both parks? This is totally part of my Gumball strategy, you know.
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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Oh I see what you are saying. Generally, there is only one un-networked attraction in each park but recently there have been two at times. It also changes more frequently now though too.

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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    So, are these non network rides up-to-date? Do users generally update this when they notice that a certain attraction is back on network or otherwise? Is this the best place for me to look if I'm curious about a specific ride's network status?
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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Autopia is currently networked. It knows I have a fast pass for space mountain.

    Edit: Roger Rabbit is also networked now.
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    Re: The Joy of Fastpass 2

    Quote Originally Posted by The First Star View Post
    Autopia is currently networked. It knows I have a fast pass for space mountain.

    Edit: Roger Rabbit is also networked now.
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    Are the other ones accurate on the list?

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