This is evident in things like One More Disney Day, a locally-targeted event that saw huge numbers at DL but smaller ones at WDW. Also at DL, the heavier crowds of the summer and holiday season appear right before AP blackouts take place, signifying the higher number of locals. At WDW, it's crowded seasonally, AP blackouts or not, but the more crowded periods are definitely not the days before AP blackouts, but rather high vacation times.
Orlando was the 3rd most dangerous city in America in 2011 according to USnews, so i dont think the "Less Crime Rate" argument holds up.
Also, as a Texan who frequents WDW, my wife and i always use to talk about how awesome it would be to live in Orlando. Until we realy drove arounf the city. It is very dumpy in such a large peercentage of the city and has an EXTREMELY HIGH white trash element.
Sory to be so blunt and politically incorrect, just speaking the truth. Not that Anaheim is any Beauty Queen of a city.
We find, as parent of small children, that for us, right now, DLR is much easier and fun than WDW, We spend one day at DL, then a day enjoying our Disney hotel and pool, then one day at California Adventure and then enjoy the hotel and Downtown Disney the next. Our final day is spent parkhopping to enjoy our favorite attractions one last time.
you can definitely do a 5 or six day vacation because it seems that DLR has about as many attractions as WDW in only 2 parks. We dont realy ever spend more than 3 days in the parks when we go to WDW because Animal kingdom and DHS arent full day parks for us. We love both places, but if DLR expands or adds a 3rd gate and encloses the resort with another resort hotel at its eastern entrance and has an expansion of downtown Disney, all which are possible and rumored, Im not sure we would ever go back to WDW because DLR is just so much easier to navigate and is way more convenient if you stay at one of the Disney hotels.
You are right, however, about being able to do about a week in DLR--if all you want to do is shop and ride rides. At WDW, there's more of a literal vacation (rather than 'trip') aspect to it, where you can spend time relaxing in the hotels or doing recreational activities. I think it really all depends on the person's cup of tea--you're a theme park junky who loves everything Disney? You'll probably appreciate DL more. You wanna have a well-rounded and full vacation? WDW wins by a landslide.
Why can I relax and enjoy my resort at WDW but I can't do the same at Grand California or Disneyland hotel? That doesn't even make sense.
Also, I think the comparison should be between Orange County and Orlando, not Los Angeles. Orlando has nothing even remotely comparable to Laguna Beach, arguably the most beautiful small beach town in America or Newport and many other jaw dropping lay beautiful places. BTW, if you think IRVINE is the NICEST area of Orange County, you didn't get around much. As a Texan I can say without bias, Orlando isn't even in the same stratosphere as Orange County.
And of course you can relax at Disneyland, but the main activity are the parks, which include waiting in lines, dealing with crowds, and heavy walking. If you want to explore an African savannah, or walk along a boardwalk or beach area, or ride horseback, or rent watercraft (non-theme park activities associated with fun vacations) you're out of luck at DLR...not so much at WDW. That was what I meant.
I'm glad Disneyland isn't this massive piece of land with a bazillion hotels and a gold course, and water parks and all that other stuff. I'm fine with our two parks, Downtown Disney and three hotels. If there MUST be another park and hotel, I'm up for one more of each but that's it. Two and three are fine, we don't need to have all these extra things. Keep it small, quaint and pretty.
Tyler, you have so many arguments that you could go to to emphasize WDW's advantages over DLR. And there ARE many. However, you choose to pick a point that is the one area that a vacation to orange County has over a vacation to Orlando. non theme park activities.
5 years ago, before our first child, my wife and i took a vacation to DL. We stayed at the Hyatt Resort on the beach in Huntington Beach and it was absolutely spectacular. It was a very easy ride into the DLR on days we went to the parks.
On days we didnt go to the parks, we enjoyed our ocean view room, resort pool, boogey boarding in the ocean, a day spent in Laguna beach, a very short drive from our hotel. One day we took surfing lessons. Those are non park activities that simply dont exist in Orlando. Heading over to Clearwater for a day is very nice, but it IS an out of town day trip and ALOT of driving involved.
You talked about being able to ride a horse, but i think not even 1/10th of 1% of WDW vacationers go horseback riding. If we are going to go there, i will throw in being able to take a day trip SNOW SKIING in Big Bear from the end of November until April. I think snow skiing beats a horseback ride. I can play golf on a decent coarse in WDW or golf on an ocean view or ocean front coarse in Newport. All of which can be reserved at a DLR hotel.
I can take a tour of Los Angeles with real studios and real Chinese theatres and REAL boardwalks, which they tried to copy throughout the WDW resort.
WDW has many advantages over DLR, but non theme park activities DEFINITELY aint one of them. Unless you insist that every non theme park activity needs to have the Disney name attached. Then, WDW is the place for you.
I dont like feeling like i am dissing WDW because I LOVE it, but many of the points you are making seem to be biased a bit.
You dont think that most WDW tourists spend most of their time by the pool at their resort or standing in lines for attractions with tons of walking around? Well, they do. How is that different that at DLR?
To each their own. WDW offers you the option to do many things on ONE property without having to rent a car, pack and travel between hotels, and you can even room charge the whole way through. I'm glad you enjoyed your trip though.
I love Disneyland park, but to me I enjoy the inclusiveness and immersion of WDW. :)
Definitely to each their own. There's nothing like traveling through the state, experiencing different things. Doing everything in one place just doesn't do it for me, but we're all different and it's great to hear different opinions!
I'll be honest here, I never understand the back and forth stuff about a debate like this. In my opinion a true Disney fan would not want to go their whole lives WITHOUT visiting each one. That's why I went to Disneyland in 2012 because I wanted to see it. I feel sorry for the people who choose one or the other because the person you are cheating is yourself. There is so much a Disney fanatic can enjoy at each place.