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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    I think if they wanted to position the park away from the 'studios' theme, then making the entrance turnstyles identical to DHS and making the front half of the park "Old Hollywood" like DHS doesn't help them. Now that they've done so much to say "You've arrived in Old Hollywood" perhaps it's time to dedicate some attractions that take you on that adventure?

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Does DCA's Hollywood Land present any threat to Universal Studios Hollywood?

    Is it Disney's answer? Both are movie studios presenting a version of Hollywood to the public.

    What succeeds and fails at each, and in the end which one is better?

    And how does it stack up against the front lot section of DHS in Florida, for those who want to go there.

    Ultimately given all the available space, what blue sky proposals could fit to make this a truly world class destination?

    If Disney's going to do Hollywood - in Southern California - how can Imagineers do it right? I'm interested in your ideas.
    Ok, first of all, this is an unfair comparison. Your comparing a land to an entire park. The real question should be DCA vs. USH, which DCA would win hands down. USH is a half day park, DCA might not be a total full day park like DL, but its a 'mostly' full day park. Id take Tower of Terror, World of Color, Carsland etc over what USH offers...ANY DAY.

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    What if you're interested in visiting Los Angeles because you want to learn about and see how motion pictures are made? Two movie studios offer theme parks: Disney and Universal.

    So why can't we compare them? One offers a superior product when viewed from this perspective.

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    I think the difference is, Universal Studios gives guests a closer look at a place where real movies and television is made.. but does a lesser job in delivering a great theme park.


    Disney excels at creating a theme park that brings guests closer to the films already made.


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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    I always thought that Disney does a pretty lousy job at presenting Hollywood in all of their theme parks.
    Funny, for the studios that are Walt Disney+Touchstone+Hollywood Pictures+ABC Studios+Pixar+Marvel+Lucas, isn't it?

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Disney thought DCA 1.0 would beat Knott's, Six Flags and Universal.

    Does DCA 2.0 beat any of these 3 at their own game? No.
    hmmm DCA 1.0 - Disney's Universal, (Magic) Mountain, (Knott's) Berry Farm Park TM

    Well .. it took them a while, but they got it nearly right, now.

    I'd give it to Universal. The theme is more consistent, and uniformed from one themed area, and attraction to the next.

    The whole north half of Hollywoodland reminds me of Tomorrowland. Closed facilities. Building facades that don't match the theme of other parts of the land. (Modern Muppets and Monsters Inc facades - to the 1930s and 40s flare to the rest of it.) Universal does not seem to have these issues.
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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    I think the difference is, Universal Studios gives guests a closer look at a place where real movies and television is made.. but does a lesser job in delivering a great theme park.


    Disney excels at creating a theme park that brings guests closer to the films already made.
    Yup. That is really the difference. USH is a working movie studio. DCA is not. One is showing you the magic of making movies and is mostly a working studio; the other is showing you the spirit of movies in a park about California. It would be impossible to do a California park without including LA. And since the film industry is so integral to Los Angeles it would probably be pretty impossible to depict LA in any shape or form, from the 1910s onward, without having something about movies.

    If Disney Studios in Burbank offered regular tours one might be able to make a more direct comparison by looking at theirs vs. Universal's backlot tour.
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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    So what's the point of a movie studio that is neither cohesively themed and engaging nor a working stage?

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    So what's the point of a movie studio that is neither cohesively themed and engaging nor a working stage?
    Exactly. To me, the concept of DCA's Hollywood Land is an embarrassment -- the embarrassment of watching Disney imitate Universal. For the company that once wowed the world with innovation, imagination and originality, it's particularly sad.

    Sad but not really surprising, given Michael's Eisner's declaration that "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides." His vision for Disney's flagship theme park was a blatant ripoff of Universal's "Ride the Movies" paradigm.

    And sadly, it is a vision which Disney's current management continues to embrace.
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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Disney had more opportunity to build a working film studio in Southern California (where they're building stages in Santa Clarita, far north of Los Angeles and Hollywood) than in the swamps of Orlando. The availability of talent and film makers and crew are more likely to make a production happen in Anaheim, but sadly they never tried this here.

    Alternatively, give us an old school Hollywood themed 'New Orleans Square' atmosphere and that would work.

    But not this.

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by jasmineray View Post
    Toontown wouldn't seem right in Hollywood Land. It's fine where it is now, IMO.
    Adjacent to Hollywood Land. Why not? That's how it's portrayed in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit".

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Adjacent to Hollywood Land. Why not? That's how it's portrayed in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit".
    Just because its in one film doesn't mean it fits thematically.

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    Well Toon Town was prominently featured in the movie, and before the movie, there was no such thing, either in our imaginations nor in the parks.

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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    I don't get the logic here. Here's the facts.


    There's a theme park called Disney CALIFORNIA Adventure

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a Disney movie that takes place in Hollywood, CA

    Toon Town is adjacent to Hollywood.

    Mickey's Toon Town only exists because of the popularity of Who Framed Roger Rabbit



    I'd very much rather have a Toon Town in DCA than A Bug's Land or Monstropolis.


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    Re: DCA's Hollywood Land vs. Universal Studios Hollywood

    If they think an entire MONSTERS INC themed land will compete with HARRY POTTER, I think they're going to be disappointed. Even if they spend the same amount on both projects, the Universal one is going to be better. Because it's based on something that is more mysterious, popular and engaging.

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