annual pass revocation/payment question

[Poisonedapples]

Absolutely. They serve alcohol at this venue because it is very profitable and contributes to the "party" type atmosphere for those who can consume it responsibly.

But make no mistake, this is Disney, not poolside at the Palms in Vegas. The partying will be tempered in a high security, highly controlled atmosphere. Rules will be strictly enforced and things will not be allowed to get out of hand.

They serve alcohol all over the park, not just in that area. they have a wine bar, they have beer trucks, has there been and is their security in those area's too? of course, in case someone gets a bit too intoxicated they get escorted out of park,however i am not against the drinking, i enjoy a few beverages myself when i amt the park...it was mentioned that a CM would have to witness or give a warning.. they don't do warnings, and infact if a CM asked for I.D. it would had to have been at the stand where the item was bought, Only security can ask for I.D.

ANYHOW..i think that we have answered the OP's questions some 20 posts ago because i can totally see this thread turning into another " should dca sell alcohol yes or no" thread..

[MochaCat]

Just passing on some info i got from talking to someone in the parks who has done this:

-When asked why i did not take a job last year at the resort i responded with: "I had just renewed my pass! I dont want to work here after paying all that money to relax here!"

-And she said "Just stop making payments. Cancel the payments on your card and disney drops it. That's what i did. Super easy."

SO, if you are not allowed back in the parks, you can stop making payments on your AP. However, I am not sure how this will look on your credit (if it does at all), but for the person I was talking to, there was no additional fees applied. You stop paying, disney stops letting you in.

***I in no way condone this, because i understand we all sign a contract saying we will pay off our passes, i am just passing on information.****

Also, I sure your experience was scary! Once, I was holding my BF's margarita while he tied his shoe, and a CM saw me from across the way and hollered at me that i was not authorized to even hold it! I was like OH CRAP IM SO SORRY! (I was 22, but did not have ID on me) The CM still threatened to call security on me and we were followed for a couple minutes after the incident. Haven't drank inside disney since!

[calsig31]

SO, if you are not allowed back in the parks, you can stop making payments on your AP. However, I am not sure how this will look on your credit (if it does at all), but for the person I was talking to, there was no additional fees applied. You stop paying, disney stops letting you in.

***I in no way condone this, because i understand we all sign a contract saying we will pay off our passes, i am just passing on information.****

Beside the fact that this is a completely dishonest solution to the problem, it will reflect poorly on one’s credit score.

[moregumboplease]

I had an incident of underage drinking at DCA (which Im probably going to fight because it was one sip and we fully cooperated.) and I had my AP taken away. I've tried calling the AP hotline to get information but they're incredibly slow. It's been a month since the incident and I looked at my bank statement a few days ago and I was still getting charged the monthly 40 dollars even though I can't even go into the parks! I don't have that kind of money just laying around(especially since my pass doesn't expire till September). Can I suspend making payments since my pass is suspended anyway?

Wait, so you broke the law, and you are going to fight it? You are underage, you shouldn't have been drinking, PERIOD.

Accept the consequences and learn your lesson. The entitlement amongst youth these days is sickening.

[Mortgageman]

Accept the consequences and learn your lesson. The entitlement amongst youth these days is sickening.

I don't think we need to keep berating the OP for her actions. You talk like underage drinking is something exclusive to today's youth....you should have been around in the 70s.

The OP's question had to do with paying the balance on her AP installment and that has been answered.

The post from above saying that Disney will not do anything if you stop making your AP payments sounds like pretty bad advice. In this scenario Disney is an unsecured creditor. The UC has several basic options when a debtor stops paying. 1) Attempt to collect in house 2) Farm it out to an outside collection agency or 3) Take legal action.

Option 2 is most likely the one Disney would use and the collection agency (or perhaps both Disney and the CA) will report negative information on the debtors credit report.

[calsig31]

Wait, so you broke the law, and you are going to fight it? You are underage, you shouldn't have been drinking, PERIOD.

Accept the consequences and learn your lesson. The entitlement amongst youth these days is sickening.

I guess no one should try to fight a speeding ticket, then.

[kirstenh]

Wait, so you broke the law, and you are going to fight it? You are underage, you shouldn't have been drinking, PERIOD.

Accept the consequences and learn your lesson. The entitlement amongst youth these days is sickening.

What I got from reading this thread is OP is admitting fault but asking for mercy/leniency and her pass back. They were escorted out of the park and passes taken, so there was punishment. All OP is stating is that /she is sorry and contrite and won't do it again, and punishment that has been meted out already matches the crime, per se.

[Poisonedapples]

i was told and i believe that they must make the payments, otherwise collections will come after them....

but check this out (from the disneyand passport FAQ)

Disney reserves the right to cancel, suspend or revoke any Passport or deny theme park admission to any Passholder at any time for any reason. Cancellation, suspension or revocation of Disneyland Passport privileges under the Disney Premier Passport will result in the cancellation, suspension or revocation of both the Disneyland and Walt Disney World privileges of such Disney Premier Passport.

so how i am reading the bolded is that even though the OP will fight it that Disney may or may not give it the pass back.


and check this out from the FAQ's also

Are there any finance charges with the Monthly Payments option?
Currently there are no finance fees with the Monthly Payments option. Additional fees may be incurred as a penalty for late payments.

so i the op doesn't continue to pay they might get a late payment

[Poisonedapples]

Just passing on some info i got from talking to someone in the parks who has done this:

-When asked why i did not take a job last year at the resort i responded with: "I had just renewed my pass! I dont want to work here after paying all that money to relax here!"

-And she said "Just stop making payments. Cancel the payments on your card and disney drops it. That's what i did. Super easy."

SO, if you are not allowed back in the parks, you can stop making payments on your AP. However, I am not sure how this will look on your credit (if it does at all), but for the person I was talking to, there was no additional fees applied. You stop paying, disney stops letting you in.

***I in no way condone this, because i understand we all sign a contract saying we will pay off our passes, i am just passing on information.****

Also, I sure your experience was scary! Once, I was holding my BF's margarita while he tied his shoe, and a CM saw me from across the way and hollered at me that i was not authorized to even hold it! I was like OH CRAP IM SO SORRY! (I was 22, but did not have ID on me) The CM still threatened to call security on me and we were followed for a couple minutes after the incident. Haven't drank inside disney since!

i am sorry .. but to the OP this is bad advise. Disney will collect and they will charge a fee for late payments on the Monthly Payment Plan. I would if i was the OP would just pay the balance what ever it may be or pay the monthly payments...

[Malina]

Someone else here once mentioned that if you default on the monthly payments, Disney will never let you use the installment plan again if you should wish to renew or return to the park at some point.

I'd be very surprised if Disney did NOT pursue non-paying APs with collections action. Nobody needs that, and your credit rating doesn't, either. It stinks to have to pay for something that you're not using, but IMHO it's the only good option the OP has, both in terms of good credit standing and good karma.

[G24T]

Trade delinquencies are the pits, especially if you're young. Plus if you ever need to take out a private student loan (which in California is likely) you'll be asked to get several co-signers which really puts your relatives on the line if you decide to default on that too.

My suggestion is to continue paying the monthly's while you work on appealing the ban with Disney. It's not like the company is heartless.. despite what some of us may say about it being that way.

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[DLandFansAZ]

I believe what other have said is true that it is a contract and you must fulfill it otherwise risk actions being taken to collect. However no one has posted that this has happened to them or someone they know. So an easier task for Disney to do if you decide to stop paying the monthly fees is to suspend the pass (which has already happened in the OP's situation) until all charges are current. Then if the passholder wishes to renew the pass, get a new one or purchase a regular ticket, you wouldn't be able to until all outstanding charges and fees are current. Since all ticket holders and passholders must provide identification at the time of purchase Disney can save collection costs buy simple imposing a block on anyone that owes Disney money. Maybe you could get away with regular tickets, but they may be able to keep you from every getting an AP again. Just a thought.

[Westsider]

Disney has a liquor license valid for the entirety of DCA park. If Disney was found to be lenient with underage drinking, the liquor control board would come down hard on Disney and the media would have a field day with the headlines "Disney puts profits ahead of the law, allows underage drinking to boost bar sales and park attendance".

[StevenW]

I guess no one should try to fight a speeding ticket, then.

It depends if you think you have a case. Fighting a charge is very hard and costly. On the other hand, try to make a deal with Disney. Ask for a suspension of the AP. Plead hardship or other circumstances.