That may very well be true and I know you and others passionately feel that way but first and foremost it is an open and running business...not a historical landmark. It must remain relevant to today's theme park consumers.
I have no interest whatsoever in Princess stuff but I know there are tons of folks that do, so give them a seldom used area that has been well constructed and looks great. Things change.
If you were to be in charge I would probably NEVER go to Disneyland again. The reason why I keep on renewing is because of changes!
That old carnitaton plaza garden area was a Ghostown 6 days per week! except during school performances. This new area is 1000 times way better than before. Great job Disney.
But yes, I TRULY love the direction DLR has gone in the last few years. People can disagree for sure, but for ME its just immensensly improved and they added so much in the last few years that I really liked its really hard to not love it and I been going for over 30 years and been to every resort multiple times. DLR is still not the best resort IMO, that will be TDR without a doubt for me, but its come around a lot in the last decade or so, thats for sure!
And of course I generally agree that people have a concern in terms of the design of the park. I have a concern for ALL the parks personnally and some will always be better than others. And I seen Disney at its best and worst. I know what it can do when its budget can go as far as their imaginations with Tokyo Disneysea being the shining example. Hands down its the best park Disney has ever built, ever IMO! And then I seen the dark side of Disney when they cut corners, limited inspiration and really just trying to get people in the doors, ala DCA 1.0, WDSP and HKDL! Just horrible, horrible parks at opening. DCA has improved immensely now where I can call it a Disney park finally lol. The other two are more lackluster but they are improving at least and getting original attractions now. So I the sea change is happening.
As for DLR, I am truly happy where it is now vs a decade ago. It was so bad, I just spent all my time doing TDR for years (I lived in Asia, not rich lol). My point is there was no reason to even see it. Didnt miss it, didnt care! NOW, its my second favorite resort behind TDR and nearly equal as things improve. Thats a great sign for me at least. I really love it now!
But if its just more of a thing you truly hate the direction the parks are going, thats perfectly valid but maybe it just mean you have to give up the thing you love the most if you really dont think its what it was when you first discovered it. Things change, people change it happens!
I gave up on it (well DLR) for years! I thought it was going to suck forever lol. Now I love it again as I did as a teenager. BUT I love the changes, not necessarily PFF, but what they did with DCA, the upkeep at DL and its newer entertainment and the ride updates at least. Not everyone is going to agree on this stuff. Its a theme park and its all subjective at the end of the day. If you feel Disney has lots its way, that perfectly valid.
CPG was just a dump! I can understand if they dont like PFF but I have no idea how people can say that should stay? These are the kind of improvements I expect Disney to do! Besides the few dozen of swing dancers, who has another area to do it, this new area is a plus on every level. It beautifies a once dead area for one, it gives a core Disney audience something they truly love (even though I will NEVER get it personnally lol) and its an added value for peoples dollars. With the shows, they now have a little more extra entertainment to add to their day if they choose. CPG brought zero to the table in all these regards. I still have no idea what the argument is lol.
OR, they can avoid the place altogether....which guess what 99% of people been doing for decades already. No offense people but you cant kowtow to the minority out there. And yes, I'm with you, I go to these parks because I want change and if its possible, often!
I'm still amazed at the number of books--some of them graduate level--not only about Disneyland, but those that reference it as well. You'll never see that with any other theme park.
Well, I guess the place was a theme park. I think we've officially crossed the line to amusement park. To thunderous applause.
It sounds and looks like some of you want Disneyland as it was back when Walt Disney was still alive, roaming around the park. Sorry folks, but those days are over and they aren't coming back. Things have changed, including the company and the times. I'm not happy with the company's corporate greed either, and they can make me very upset sometimes. At the same time, I realize corporate greed exists pretty much everywhere, now. This isn't the fifties and sixties. Things have changed at Disneyland... To the point where we can officially call it an amusement park? Absurdity to the core.
What did Disney ever do to you to be so pessimistic about everything in the park? The complaining is getting a bit old, and I suspect that a lot of folks on these boards aren't interested in hearing the same old, "They changed the style of cups and they're flushing Disney history down the toilet as the place is now officially a dump."
Could it be that when you were younger and more optimistic you had a healthier view of things, including the park?
Princess Fantasy Faire has theming, a lot of it, and outshines CPG in that regard.
I'd also be interested to know what "graduate level" books there are on Disneyland.
The disgruntled won't stop posting because it is one of their primary hobbies, trashing new stuff Disney does and reminding people how great things were back in the day.
If TDA/Burbank is reading this thread, they must get a lot of laughs out of it. APers complaining about PFF (a great offering for families with little kids and finally the princess meet and greet that girls deserve) is being trashed by a relatively small number of ostensibly diehard fans of the old CPG which was probably the deadest area of the park . . . and was prime real estate near the castle. This just shows them that some "fans" can complain about anything and everything just to cause a big stink . . . even when a change is a quality attraction that pleases more guests.
Well . . . OK, even when 1955 Disneyland opened there were still vacationeers/families who preferred Hawaii and Vegas.
I would suggest just ignoring his comments as he seems to want a reaction. If you're a true blue fan of Disney, you don't want to hear just constant meaningless dribble trashing the parks . . . when it makes *no sense* then it is time to realize that the motivation is to attack, not to be objective, or even truthful with your own appraisal, but just to use every bit of news as a way to attack Disney, and fans of Disney on this site.
But to keep it ON topic lol, besides the location issue, there isnt really much of an argument against this area. For one, it DOES do everything we think of when it comes to Disney, so I dont know why people have an issue with it? If its not your thing, its not your thing. Do people honestly think everyone loves Indiana Jones ride? No, of course not, but obviously enough do so thats all that matters and its very popular. But I'm sure just as many people who ride and loves it, just as many people avoid it like the plaque because its not their thing. Again, not everything in the park has to aim at every age and demographic.
And PFF takes NOTHING away from anybody. Its only a plus. And no I don't count the swing dancers because A. Its not a true Disney activity anyway and B. We are talking a group that is not even big enough to fill a quarter of the Magic Eye theater. You can't base decisions around that tiny margin of people who uses a space litterally a few hours one night a week. PFF, as much as most of us is not in love with it, is still a big plus for the park. They concentrated an area that will give the little ones (and bigger little ones lol) a place to see their favorite princesses. The rest of us get a nice area to at least admire and take a few pics here and there. Nothing (thats important) got removed for it. There are more positives and end of the day almost no negatives to have it because no one is losing anything for it.
And if you want to avoid it, you can, just like you avoid the other stuff you dont like and concentrate on the things you DO like. Meanwhile others get a nice area. Seems to work out for most.