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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Folks, this is an interesting topic, but we need to avoid being judgmental of the opinions expressed by others. Disney has clearly stated their current policy. You are welcome to express your opinions, but not to the point of personally calling out others. Common courtesy should lead us to post in that way, but failing that, our rules demand it. Make sure there are no personal asides or personal attacks, and this conversation will be able to continue.
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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    I read extensively on the components in the vapors of E-cigs and there ARE dangers in second hand smoke.

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by SteamboatMickey<3 View Post
    I read extensively on the components in the vapors of E-cigs and there ARE dangers in second hand smoke.
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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    I absolutely despise smoking. I hate it. I call out the littering that results. I do not hide my distain for people smoking in inappropriate or illegal venues.

    Observing e-cigarette usage stirs up the same emotional reactions. But that's my problem. None of the reasons I despise smoking apply to e-cigarettes. I guess I still consider them distasteful, but that's merely my opinion of them. An emotional reaction to them detached from rationality does not warrant any reaction.

    If Disneyland's policies are to treat e-cigarette usage like smoking, so be it, and it should be enforced. But, like several e-cigarette users here have posted, I was unaware of the policy. The no-smoking in most areas rule I would not have thought to apply to e-cigarettes either. I think Disney should either relax the policy or make
    it known.

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by SteamboatMickey<3 View Post
    I read extensively on the components in the vapors of E-cigs and there ARE dangers in second hand smoke.

    I hope that's not the case it;s the same material that's used in DLR for attractions like POTC and HM that would be horribl to find out. Where are these articles?

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    I think e-cigs and cigarettes should both be enjoyed in the smoking areas only, and mainly from an enforcement standpoint. They look identical or nearly identical and expecting CMs to use their spidey-senses to distinguish the two is unrealisitic. Making e-cig users follow the same rules as regular cigarette users not only makes it easier on CMs but also avoids other guests from seeing an e-cig user "light up" and think that the smoking areas are not being enforced, or a smoker seeing it and then light up a cigarette, and then using the argument "other people are smoking outside the designated areas, why can't I?"

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by biggsworth View Post
    I hope that's not the case it;s the same material that's used in DLR for attractions like POTC and HM that would be horribl to find out. Where are these articles?

    Most of the unsafe chemicals and their levels vary from product to product. They are found in the liquid refills and are ususally a result of either flavoring being added or are a byproduct to how the nicotine is being delivered and how much nicotine is being delivered per puff. Some companies (now banned from selling in the US) added poisons as a preservative. This is why some countries, such as Australia, Canada and Hong Kong, have banned the sale of e-cigs until further research is done.

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by kirstenh View Post
    I think e-cigs and cigarettes should both be enjoyed in the smoking areas only, and mainly from an enforcement standpoint. They look identical or nearly identical and expecting CMs to use their spidey-senses to distinguish the two is unrealisitic. Making e-cig users follow the same rules as regular cigarette users not only makes it easier on CMs but also avoids other guests from seeing an e-cig user "light up" and think that the smoking areas are not being enforced, or a smoker seeing it and then light up a cigarette, and then using the argument "other people are smoking outside the designated areas, why can't I?"
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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyAaron View Post
    I absolutely despise smoking. I hate it. I call out the littering that results. I do not hide my distain for people smoking in inappropriate or illegal venues.

    Observing e-cigarette usage stirs up the same emotional reactions. But that's my problem. None of the reasons I despise smoking apply to e-cigarettes. I guess I still consider them distasteful, but that's merely my opinion of them. An emotional reaction to them detached from rationality does not warrant any reaction.

    If Disneyland's policies are to treat e-cigarette usage like smoking, so be it, and it should be enforced. But, like several e-cigarette users here have posted, I was unaware of the policy. The no-smoking in most areas rule I would not have thought to apply to e-cigarettes either. I think Disney should either relax the policy or make
    it known.
    Thanks for your honesty. It's refreshing!

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    I assume people "vape" because they are trying to quit smoking really cigarettes. Quite often when you are trying to alter an addiction, inconvenience is a big factor in helping you quit. I would be less apt to light up at Disneyland if I had to go to a designated area an be away from the fun and my family.

    I know Disney didn't make their rule on smoking based on inconvenience, but if you are truly trying to break you habit being groups with actual smokers is a good thing IMO.

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by kirstenh View Post
    Most of the unsafe chemicals and their levels vary from product to product. They are found in the liquid refills and are ususally a result of either flavoring being added or are a byproduct to how the nicotine is being delivered and how much nicotine is being delivered per puff. Some companies (now banned from selling in the US) added poisons as a preservative. This is why some countries, such as Australia, Canada and Hong Kong, have banned the sale of e-cigs until further research is done.
    I have been trying out Blu e-Cigs and their ingredients are:
    Ingredients: Distilled Water, Nicotine (when applicable), FCC Grade Vegetable Glycerin, Natural Flavors, Artificial Flavors, Citric Acid
    Also, there are little to no nicotine levels in second hand vapor according to a New Zealand study on second hand vapor.
    The results of this study confirm the findings of my last 4 years of research. E-cigarettes pose no discernible risk to public health." - Dr. Murray Laugesen - Public Health Medicine Specialist, Health New Zealand
    http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/268...-exposure.html

    There is probably more to worry about eating than second hand vapor:
    Vegetable Highest reported mean nicotine content
    Cauliflower 16.8 ng/g
    Eggplant 100.0 ng/g
    Potato peel 4.8 ng/g
    Potato pulp 15.3 ng/g
    Potato 7.1 ng/g
    Green tomatoes 42.8 ng/g
    Pureed tomatoes 52.0 ng/g
    Ripe tomatoes 4.3 ng/g
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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    I have been trying out Blu e-Cigs and their ingredients are:
    Artificial flavors are, by defninition, chemicals created in a lab for the sole pupose of adding flavor. Formaldehyde can be added to food under the ingredient listing "artificial flavors".

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    Cauliflower 16.8 ng/g
    Eggplant 100.0 ng/g
    Potato peel 4.8 ng/g
    Potato pulp 15.3 ng/g
    Potato 7.1 ng/g
    Green tomatoes 42.8 ng/g
    Pureed tomatoes 52.0 ng/g
    Ripe tomatoes 4.3 ng/g

    Mmmmmm.... potaaaato pulp....
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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by aashee View Post
    I assume people "vape" because they are trying to quit smoking really cigarettes. Quite often when you are trying to alter an addiction, inconvenience is a big factor in helping you quit. I would be less apt to light up at Disneyland if I had to go to a designated area an be away from the fun and my family.

    I know Disney didn't make their rule on smoking based on inconvenience, but if you are truly trying to break you habit being groups with actual smokers is a good thing IMO.
    So the 'vaper' guy goes to the smoke filled smoker section with cigarette carrying guests and then what happens?

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    Re: Electronic Cigaretes - Vaping at Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by kirstenh View Post
    I think e-cigs and cigarettes should both be enjoyed in the smoking areas only, and mainly from an enforcement standpoint. They look identical or nearly identical and expecting CMs to use their spidey-senses to distinguish the two is unrealisitic. Making e-cig users follow the same rules as regular cigarette users not only makes it easier on CMs but also avoids other guests from seeing an e-cig user "light up" and think that the smoking areas are not being enforced, or a smoker seeing it and then light up a cigarette, and then using the argument "other people are smoking outside the designated areas, why can't I?"
    Many of them don't look anything at all like a cigarette. It depends on the brand and model. I've seen a lot them at my office building that no one could possibly mistake for a cigarette. I received one as a gift, and unfortunately it does have the cigarette look. But either way, to me it's not a big deal about the current policy. I don't feel the need to vap (vape?) anywhere and everywhere and get people all riled up. On my last trip I did take a quick hit or two outside of smoking areas. I tried to be discreet and kind of turned away and covered it with my hand. No one ever noticed. When I went to the trouble of getting to a smoking section, I figured I might as well have a real cigarette. Now that I know the policy....eh, I'd probably do the same. But maybe I'll have quit by then. It really has helped. It's cut my smoking down by half at this point.

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