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    Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

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    So, if Iron Man is set in a comic book version of the present day, does it really belong in Tomorrowland?

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Buzz Lightyear set in the present and does not really belong in tomorrowland.

    Star Wars set in the past and does not really belong in Tomorrowland.

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Stark Expo, which is what's rumored to be going in Tomorrowland, is all about the future of technology. It fits.

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Iron Man is futurISTIC. Tony Stark demonstrates what we might wear in the future if we suddenly need to fly to the store, open a jar of peanut butter, then fight off supervillians.

    We experienced the body on Iron Man exhibit on Sunday and loved it. ("Hands on" is an insufficient adjective.) There was confusion about where the line began to become Iron Man, but once we found that hallway, I was glad how well-lit it was for Innoventions because that meant my daughter could do her math homework while we waited.

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    While this is ground that has been covered ad nauseum, it is not the time in which the attraction is placed that makes it fit Tomorrowland, but what it represents. Star Tours shows that with advances in technology man can someday achieve interstellar tourism.

    Similarly, while Iron Man is set in present day he displays prototype technology that is not available yet. His repulsor technology is something we don't have yet, but if invented could be a new type of clean, emission free propulsion system. His arc reactor is an example of clean renewable energy which is something we desperately need. If done right, Disney can not only display these fictional solutions to modern day problems but also show what steps we have taken toward real life solutions as well.
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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    When they redid Tomorrowland in 1998, the new theme was Imagination and Beyond, so it's supposed to now be more of a "Where will our imagination take us?" then an actual representation of the future. So fictional futuristic things that happen to be set in the present or past are just as valid as Space Mountain.
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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    There are science fiction works that are set in present day that contain technology that isnt feasible by our current technological standards currently.

    Sci Fi like Back to the Future.
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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Quote Originally Posted by calsig31 View Post
    While this ground that has been covered ad nauseum, it is not the time in which the attraction is placed that makes it fit Tomorrowland, but what it represents. Star Tours shows that with advances on technology man can someday achieve interstellar tourism.

    Similarly, while Iron Man is set in present day he displays prototype technology that is not available yet. His repulsor technology is something we don't have yet, but if invented could be a new type of clean, emission free propulsion system. His arc reactor is an example of clean renewable energy which is something we desperately need. If done right, Disney can not only display these fictional solutions to modern day problems but also show what steps we have taken toward real life solutions as well.
    Basically this.

    It's also worth noting that Carousel of Progress (which is for all intents and purposes the perfect encapsulation of Walt's vision for Tomorrowland) was not about the literal setting of the attraction, but rather the idea of looking at technology, the way it progresses over time, and how it can make life better in the future. As calsig said, the concepts of clean energy, alternate propulsion system, etc. are decidedly futuristic and Stark's focus on using technology to help people is perfectly in line with the ideals of Tomorrowland.

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Ah yes it's that time of the month again to debate Marvel in the parks. Iron Man in my opinion belongs in Tomorrowland. The ideas that Stark industires promotes is about technology advances wether it is through Military or non military use. If you watch Iron Man 1,2 and Captain America you can see what types of items are shown cased by the Starks. They definetely fit into a world of tomorrow. This is also present in the comics but I am sure more people have seen the movies I listed above versus read the comics. If a attraction was built in the Iron Man universe it could use the stark expo for a queue and tie into a E ticket type attraction to finish it off. As much as I love Tron I think Iron Man would be a more enjoyable experience. Now because I am greedy I would wont both franchises in TL.

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Ironman IMHO is the one Marvel character that fit's perfectly in Disneyland. In fact his overall vision of a better future without weapons, utilizing technology, ect is exactly the same vision Walt had.


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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    Ironman IMHO is the one Marvel character that fit's perfectly in Disneyland. In fact his overall vision of a better future without weapons, utilizing technology, ect is exactly the same vision Walt had.
    Plus the tie-in to Stark's dad and the New York World's fair aligns Tony's character to having a close tie to Walt's factual era of science & idealism. It's been discussed before many times and I also agree that Tomorrowland's best chance for success is to return the theme of Tomorrowland to it's earlier 50's/60's theme and then retro-fy it with an amazing showcase of future technologies ala' the Stark Expo.
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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Quote Originally Posted by biggsworth View Post
    Ah yes it's that time of the month again to debate Marvel in the parks. Iron Man in my opinion belongs in Tomorrowland. The ideas that Stark industires promotes is about technology advances wether it is through Military or non military use. If you watch Iron Man 1,2 and Captain America you can see what types of items are shown cased by the Starks. They definetely fit into a world of tomorrow. This is also present in the comics but I am sure more people have seen the movies I listed above versus read the comics. If a attraction was built in the Iron Man universe it could use the stark expo for a queue and tie into a E ticket type attraction to finish it off. As much as I love Tron I think Iron Man would be a more enjoyable experience. Now because I am greedy I would wont both franchises in TL.
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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Quote Originally Posted by G24T View Post
    Plus the tie-in to Stark's dad and the New York World's fair aligns Tony's character to having a close tie to Walt's factual era of science & idealism. It's been discussed before many times and I also agree that Tomorrowland's best chance for success is to return the theme of Tomorrowland to it's earlier 50's/60's theme and then retro-fy it with an amazing showcase of future technologies ala' the Stark Expo.

    I was just about to say this ^

    Ironman has more reason to be there thematically than Ghosts do in New Orleans.

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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Quote Originally Posted by jcman3777 View Post
    I was just about to say this ^

    Ironman has more reason to be there thematically than Ghosts do in New Orleans.
    Although I would agree that Stark Expo/Iron Man thematically fits in Tomorrowland, ghosts fit in New Orleans Square just as much. Voodoo, spirits, ghosts, witchcraft, superstition, etc. are well-known and practiced in New Orleans. Mansion fits quite well, in my opinion.
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    Re: Iron Man not set in the future therefore does not belong in Tomorrowland?

    Quote Originally Posted by jasmineray View Post

    Autopia isn't futuristic and it's in Tomorrowland. It hasn't been futuristic in years.
    That's why all these attractions not based on the future or the ones that have lost their edge must go in order for Tomorrowland to reclaim greatness. Using a few attractions as an example why Tomorrowland should continue going down the wrong path isn't a good strategy.

    Autopia, Buzz Lightyear, Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage, Captain EO, and Innoventions need to go or change themes to something more appropriate.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcman3777 View Post
    I was just about to say this ^

    Ironman has more reason to be there thematically than Ghosts do in New Orleans.
    Ghosts and pirates are very accurate in New Orleans history and folklore. These two attractions have the strongest and most relevant theme in any Disney park.
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