View Poll Results: Who creates a believable pier / boardwalk ?

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  • DCA's Paradise Pier is like the real thing

    13 36.11%
  • Knott's makes me feel like I'm at the beach

    3 8.33%
  • Neither, but I give the edge to Disney

    19 52.78%
  • Neither, but I'll go with Knott's

    0 0%
  • They're about equal

    1 2.78%
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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by doppio View Post
    The pier theme is cheap and tacky and doesn't belong in a Disney park in the first place.


    agreed. it was thrown in just like that in the beginning. out of nowhere lol. out of random i say.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    It's not random, Michael Eisner wanted a Ferris Wheel SOMEWHERE for a really long time.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Paradise Pier, hands down. In terms of attractions and the look of the area it's far above Knotts boardwalk. I mean PP has Little Mermaid, Midway Mania, World of Color, and Screamin. So yea, no competion, Paradise Pier wins.

    Overall Knotts has small pockets of theming but the vast majority of it is cheap spinners and metal theme-less coasters. It's more amusement park than theme park. If your like me and do not care for coasters, there isn't much value in going to Knotts. I'm sorry but it's not worth the price of admission just to visit the ghost town and eat chicken.
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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomorrowland_1967 View Post
    I would have thought Matt Oimet (formally DL president .. as everyone here should know) .. would give Knott's something for entire families .. not more "metal junk" only teens and 20-somethings want.
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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    I think what people fail to realize is that the pier theme isn't just some tacky 1990's idea of carnival attractions, but a nod to the past of the classic 1920's and 30's piers. I just learned that San Francisco had one way back in the day. It used to be a big deal attraction wise in that time and is a good part of history. Now if we could only get diving horses at DCA....


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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    It's not random, Michael Eisner wanted a Ferris Wheel SOMEWHERE for a really long time.

    he sure got it lol.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    True, but in the 50's they were in a sad state of disrepair and Walt Disney hated them. Disneyland was built to be the antithesis of boardwalks/piers.
    Just as Walt's answer to tacky amusement parks was to build Disneyland, why shouldn't Paradise Pier be Disney's 'answer' to tacky amusement piers? But all I was trying to say in my OP was just that amusement piers are thematically correct for a California-themed park. At least, more thematically correct than the coming 'Monstropolis'.
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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by brandond6 View Post
    I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion but really? I just don't understand how anyone could possibly think that. What makes Knott's boardwalk area even remotely better aesthetically speaking?
    A couple of things: the greater use of a flat wooded boardwalk built up to the waterline and the use of walkways over the water which resembles docks. Makes much more sense than the 100 ft or so wooden planks at DCA curving too modernistically to give the are any sense of time or place. Knotts is a bit modern as well but to me it does a better job of looking like an actual boardwalk.

    Also lets remember at DCA it is Paradise Pier and at Knotts it is the Boardwalk. To you land lubbers those are two totally separate things.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    True, but in the 50's they were in a sad state of disrepair and Walt Disney hated them. Disneyland was built to be the antithesis of boardwalks/piers.
    That they were. My ex MIL grew up in Huntington Beach during the 1950's. The Pike was near the Long Beach Naval Shipyard. Apparently it was filled with sailors on shore leave looking for "one thing only" and so her father never allowed her to go there.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    Also lets remember at DCA it is Paradise Pier and at Knotts it is the Boardwalk. To you land lubbers those are two totally separate things.
    Ah, but the fact is, Paradise Pier doesn't have water on both sides. So it's not really a pier at all, it's more of a boardwalk.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Just as Walt's answer to tacky amusement parks was to build Disneyland, why shouldn't Paradise Pier be Disney's 'answer' to tacky amusement piers? But all I was trying to say in my OP was just that amusement piers are thematically correct for a California-themed park. At least, more thematically correct than the coming 'Monstropolis'.
    Thematically correct, check. Better than Monstropolis for California Adventure, check.

    Disney enough? Maybe not.

    Better than Knott's? Questionable.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Having seen the new Boardwalk in person I think it's one of Knott's best areas now. It's going to have so much kinetic energy and movement, it'll really be alive. But obviously doesn't have the same budget Disney does. They're both good.


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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyInWonderland View Post
    I think what people fail to realize is that the pier theme isn't just some tacky 1990's idea of carnival attractions, but a nod to the past of the classic 1920's and 30's piers. I just learned that San Francisco had one way back in the day. It used to be a big deal attraction wise in that time and is a good part of history. Now if we could only get diving horses at DCA....
    If that was their intention with DCA 1.0, they weren't trying very hard with the whole time period thing.

    Amusement piers, fairs and carnivals never appealed to me. There's just something, cold and empty about them like they were skeletons. I guess this was Walt's feeling on them too. At least Disney is doing more with PP thanks to TLM and TSM.
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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    I know it's not good etiquette to slam the underdog but at the same time we shouldn't elevate Knotts to a level that it isn't at. There is NO way the neon colored coaster-filled boardwalk looks better than the Victorian Paradise Pier. I'm sorry but it's laughable to even suggest that it's on par with PP.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    Having seen the new Boardwalk in person I think it's one of Knott's best areas now. It's going to have so much kinetic energy and movement, it'll really be alive. But obviously doesn't have the same budget Disney does. They're both good.
    yeah. i think knotts will have a good year this summer. im planning to buy a pass. looking foward to see the new stuff.

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    Re: Knott's Boardwalk vs. Disney California Adventure's Paradise Pier

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    A couple of things: the greater use of a flat wooded boardwalk built up to the waterline and the use of walkways over the water which resembles docks. Makes much more sense than the 100 ft or so wooden planks at DCA curving too modernistically to give the are any sense of time or place. Knotts is a bit modern as well but to me it does a better job of looking like an actual boardwalk.

    Also lets remember at DCA it is Paradise Pier and at Knotts it is the Boardwalk. To you land lubbers those are two totally separate things.



    That they were. My ex MIL grew up in Huntington Beach during the 1950's. The Pike was near the Long Beach Naval Shipyard. Apparently it was filled with sailors on shore leave looking for "one thing only" and so her father never allowed her to go there.
    i love the boardwalk alot more that paradise pier.

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