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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    I always thought that they should consider using the Holidays as a way to include the diversity of the state into the park.

    Disneyland has the big Christmas season showcased as most americans see it. DCA could extend the Holiday feel and look by showcasing how the many diversities of people in CAlifornia celebrate the Christmas Holidays.



    If done correctly it could be an extension to the small cultural displays/events they do in Disneyland throughout the year. these include Cinco de Mayo, three kings days, Day of the Dead, Chinese New year etc

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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Westsider View Post
    Disney California Adventure's permanent facilities celebrate and entertain with things that unite us as Californians, not that define our differences.

    While there are various cuisines found in DCA; Italian, Asian, Central American, Greek, American, none of those are inherent to California, they are found in nearly every modern community anywhere (especially the dumbed-down theme park menu versions). Disney has also done a FANTASTIC job in the last decade of offering seasonal exhibits and entertainment aimed at specific sub-cultures of Americans. No other theme park can boast the various cultural festivals or temporary celebrations built around various cultural holidays or offerings like the Disneyland Resort can.

    Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.

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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Maybe it should be called "Californio Adventure" instead. I agree that the Spanish who presumably discovered California, and the Mexicans who colonized it do not have nearly enough presence in this park. They should have kept the Tortilla factory because at least that was one small representation.


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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Westsider View Post
    Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hispanic-Americans or African-Americans or Asian-Americans or Irish-Americans", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans.

    The Great American Melting Pot. There's something you don't hear much about anymore, in this trendy age of hyphen-Americans.

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    This makes no sense. No one is asking for any attraction "for" latinos, instead the question posed is whether DCA needs a larger presence of attractios celebrating a huge cultural influence to the state.

    Just as I have no explicit connection to latino-culture, I have no explicit connection to the National Park culture or Hollywood cultures in California, but I think that those areas of the park still should be included. By subbing in these alternative cultures, we see the absurdity of your argument. How does this read:

    "Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hollywood-types or outdoorsy folks or car enthusiasts or aviation nuts", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans."

    First and foremost... this line of thinking is clearly how we'd end up with a park full of Disney attractions with nothing to do with California. For your argument to have any power at all, you'll have to convince me why car culture is different from latino culture. Don't say that we can't all "unite" in celebrating cultural influence... because as a white guy I can tell you that you don't have to be latino to enjoy a dia de los muertos attraction (Knotts) or tasty Mexican food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acpisme View Post
    This x1000. We all have heritage, and while there is nothing wrong in celebrating your heritage, people need to have pride in being just an American!
    First, the park is about California, not America. Second, for a lot of people, the latino culture is a huge part of "being American," and especially "being Californian" for that matter.
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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chesire View Post
    Latino culture in California is very prevalent - 2/5 of the population is Hispanic, 30% speak Spanish, and California was originally part of Mexico. At my old school, we were required to take three years of Spanish from 6th to 8th, signs are written in English and Spanish, etc. Besides the restaurant at
    Pacific Wharf, there's nothing! I say Disney needs to do a better job at including a culture that is brutally important to its past and present.
    It wasn't originally part of mexico. It was for thousands of years home to Native Americans. Then part of Spain for 100's and only near the end from 1821 to 1850 part of Mexico. Other than that I agree with you.
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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chesire View Post
    Latino culture in California is very prevalent - 2/5 of the population is Hispanic, 30% speak Spanish, and California was originally part of Mexico. At my old school, we were required to take three years of Spanish from 6th to 8th, signs are written in English and Spanish, etc. Besides the restaurant at
    Pacific Wharf, there's nothing! I say Disney needs to do a better job at including a culture that is brutally important to its past and present.
    Yeah, it might be great. Anything they create would probably be hated by 10% of the population, who will be the most vocal about their opinions.

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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by cruise View Post
    This makes no sense. No one is asking for any attraction "for" latinos, instead the question posed is whether DCA needs a larger presence of attractios celebrating a huge cultural influence to the state.

    Just as I have no explicit connection to latino-culture, I have no explicit connection to the National Park culture or Hollywood cultures in California, but I think that those areas of the park still should be included. By subbing in these alternative cultures, we see the absurdity of your argument. How does this read:

    "Instead of asking "Why isn't there a show/ride/restaurant for Hollywood-types or outdoorsy folks or car enthusiasts or aviation nuts", perhaps it's best to appreciate that All-Americans can enjoy a day at DCA full of fabulous rides and entertainment like Radiator Springs Racers or Soarin' or Tower of Terror or World of Color and enjoy that together, as one happy melting pot of Americans."

    First and foremost... this line of thinking is clearly how we'd end up with a park full of Disney attractions with nothing to do with California. For your argument to have any power at all, you'll have to convince me why car culture is different from latino culture. Don't say that we can't all "unite" in celebrating cultural influence... because as a white guy I can tell you that you don't have to be latino to enjoy a dia de los muertos attraction (Knotts) or tasty Mexican food.

    First, the park is about California, not America. Second, for a lot of people, the latino culture is a huge part of "being American," and especially "being Californian" for that matter.
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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    As long as it is relevant to the park theme and is a good quality attraction, then I am totally fine with this idea.

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    Disney has created a magical land for adults and children to enjoy and have fun..if you want more history go to a museum!

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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brady View Post
    Disney has created a magical land for adults and children to enjoy and have fun..if you want more history go to a museum!
    And apparently not Epcot.
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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brady View Post
    Disney has created a magical land for adults and children to enjoy and have fun..if you want more history go to a museum!
    I don't think I've seen a single post here that even implies there should be a ride that is about history. We're talking about the fact that a big part of California's history is missing from the park. It only makes sense to incorporate it more into the fabric of DCA.

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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    The only way to have a proper "Spanish" representation in the park is if it's a Pixar film that by coincidence has Spanish themes.
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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

    I don't want to see any Latino culture at DCA or at Disneyland. Sorry if that offends someone, but living in Southern California there is way more than enough Latino culture around that we don't need it at DCA. When I go to DCA and Disneyland, it's to escape from reality. To get away from the sad/sick/twisted/warped/messed up/demented/difficult/hard world that we live in. It's a great place to go where everyone is equal regardless of race, color, ethnicity, creed, or religious beliefs. You don't find that anywhere else in Southern California except at a Disney theme park.

    Yes, Latino culture was important to the state of California, but so were many other cultures. Unless Disney has some remarkable plan to pay a tribute to all of them, then paying a tribute to Latino's would be a form of prejudice that doesn't belong at a Disney Theme Park. I would love to see DCA continue to become less and less California and more and more Disney, as it has been doing. I live in California, I don't need to go to DCA to see California.

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    Re: Where is all the Latin presence in California Adventure?

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    I would love to see DCA continue to become less and less California and more and more Disney.
    This makes no sense to me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomorrowland_1967 View Post
    The only way to have a proper "Spanish" representation in the park is if it's a Pixar film that by coincidence has Spanish themes.
    That could definitely be a possibility if the Dia de los Muertos movie Pixar is developing ever comes to fruition.
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