Lets just entertain ourselves for a moment - And assume turning TL into "Star Wars land" is the bees knees!
What room is there to fit these "Star Wars" attractions that make the whole land ONE BIG Star Wars land?
* You know Space Mountain is going nowhere!
* The same goes for the subs. They spent 172 million on redoing them just 6 years ago. With Finding Dory on the way - It's going NOWHERE!
* Autopia. Why do I get the feeling the most that will ever happen to this,if anything, is giving it electric vehicles? I see this logistical nightmare trying to do anything in this space. I get this feeling Autopia is here to stay!
* Get rid of Buzz Lightyear? - I think John Lassetter will have something to say about that. I think it's safe to say that's going nowhere.
* We have Star Tours taking the spot at the entrance into the land.
* What major attraction/idea is going to fit into Starcade? The area is too narrow ... Too small!
* Redd Rockets Pizza Port - again: Another piece of space, apparently too small for WDI's "big" ideas.
That only leaves the Innovention's space, the "Magic Eye" theater space, and the Peoplemover track.
Even if they take those 3 facilities and create a "Star Wars" idea out of them ... how are they going to tie the local "Pixar" stuff in with it?
I think I got the answer:
Now, if Disney REALLY wants to capitalize on their Lucas Film acquisition - They need to put it in a place all it's own - Not sharing the same space with other attractions that we know are going nowhere!
Star Wars is like the biggest movie franchise of all time.
Of course its a good thing, and long overdue.
I dont think Stitch or the Pixar stuff is going anywhere, if that's what you're suggesting.
And I think Space Mountain could, and maybe should, easily be themed to Star Wars. Dont need to change the outside, it already looks star warsy enough. Same ride but with more tie fighters and John Williams.
I could see the show replacing captain Eo being a similar show to MILF in that it uses living charecter initiative but uses creatures from the Star Wars mythos. What could be really amazing is a dueling spinner attraction on the roofs of tomorrowland of xwings spinning around tie fighters I think they even have a patent for 2 "dueling" spinners.
i could also see them doing a half/half thing where you have Star Wars attractions in the front and you get rid of the subs and all that stuff in the back and make Avatarland/Pandora with its own set of attractions. That would completely breath new life into the land.
And I also question - Disney possibly scaling back on expenditure of it's theme parks - particularly the DLR ...(per, Miceage's latest column - Leaving much of the 1967/77 Tomorrowland structures - just a "reskin"). Utilizing only the Innoventions, Peoplemover, and Magic Eye Theater facilities for new attractions?
I actually thought there would be a more "substantial" TL ... Star Wars or no Star Wars involvement.
One Star Wars theme ride is enough for Disneyland. But if my arm was to be twisted, then leave the 1st ride as Star Tours, make the second a Star Wars ride but a totally different format from Star Tours. How about a Peter Pan style ride, on tracks suspended from above, gliding high above the AT-ATs trudging along the snow, then swooping between their legs, in a speeder, then running through a hallway battling killer droids. At the very end of the ride you pass through a fog screen accompanied by icy cold air blast -- your party gets carbonite frozen -- then your vehicle goes out into the outside light and your ride ends.
Make part of it visual/physical -- sort of an ooo ahh gentle/safe look like viewing the mountain from a distance in the Peter Pan ride, before the entering the next room where the action changes. Small, safe and far away, followed by up close action. Keep the AT-ATs animatronic, no damn CGI screens -- no Nintendo please.
If Tron is being ruled out because there is live action mixed with animation, that would rule out classics like Mary Poppins, Song of the South, and Pete’s Dragon.
If it is being ruled out because of the live action alone, it would rule out things like the Apple Dumpling Gang, Herbie the Love Bug, and Pollyana.
There is also the sci-fi aspect of Tron. However, such films as the Black Hole, 20000 Leagues Under the Sea, Treasure Planet, The Incredibles, and Meet the Robinsons.
As an entertainment giant with so many faces, how does one pin down what the true essence of the company is and say that one film is more “Disney” than another?
While I dislike the fact that "every ride is made into a movie", kids are familiar with Mr Toad's Wild Ride, Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, etc because of the movies, not because they become familiar with the rides first, and then go to see the movies. The animated stuff, is released and re-released in every version possible by Disney so that it's always fresh in kids minds. Unless Disney plans to re-release a new Tron (remake, sequel, or otherwise) it will be completely irrelevant to kids at Disneyland, when that starts happening, you get just "rides" and not a cohesive theme throughout the park like Disneyland has to offer. Any theme park (Six Flags, Kings Island, etc) can have "just rides" it's the way that the rides all work together into a theme that makes Disneyland so special. And, Disneyland always manages to stay relevant to today's kids, whether it's by re-theming rides, changing rides, or releasing new movies.
I've said it before and I will say it again. Star Wars isn't the problem. Tron isn't the problem. Both could be very successful in a Disney theme park, but "plopping" attractions in at random is not what Disneyland is about or what it's supposed to be. I could see Disney pulling an "island of adventure" type of thing with a third park...Tron section, Marvel section, Star Wars section, throw in a Pixar section that can be changed at whim to attract younger audiences.
As to Haunted Mansion, I can guarantee that kids are familiar with it because of the ride, not that horrible Eddie Murphy movie.
First off as stated - Star Wars occurs A Long Time Ago, not in the future. Too much SW in the park would be overkill.
As for movie based rides, that makes perfect sense at Universal, they are a STUDIO park, everything they have is based off of their movie and TV properties. With Disney, it does get stifling to only see movie based attractions.
My daughter made a point last night - while not basing a land off of the movie per se, Meet the Robinsons had some great future world concepts that would be entertaining and show a bright promising future - bubble transit, instant buildings, spaceship pizza delivery by cannon!
The movie may not have done great, but there are some great gems in there that could work in TOMORROWLand. It just fits.
And, again, as calsig31 pointed out, TRON, TRON: Legacy, its television show (TRON: Uprising), and its recent video game (TRON: Evolution) have been released on a wide variety of platforms. It may not be as popular as Star Wars, but it's far from obscure or irrelevant. This isn't Song of the South we're talking about here. On Facebook, the franchise's page actually has 5.6 million followers. That's a considerably strong group. Star Wars' page has approximately 10.6 million followers, and considering how ingrained Star Wars is in popular culture and the sheer multitude of movies, spin-offs, and merchandise of the franchise, TRON's page having more than half that number of "likes" is pretty impressive.
Disneyland knows that star wars is very popular to a large amount of people, so they want to advertise as much as they can to get more money and more people to visit the park. The more people notice that disney has taken over Star Wars, the more fans will enjoy disneyland.