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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Quote Originally Posted by Mykayla View Post
    i think they need to have a new spot for MMC members
    Britney Spears, Annette, Justin Timberlake, Ryan Gosling...


    there isnt a reason to replace Mileys photo with Annettes
    Miley was the bigger star out of the 2
    and her being on the VMA only made her the talk of the world
    her single is selling strong and its doing good on Billboard Hot 100
    Disney isnt stupid enough to take her photo down over nothing
    To be fair. Annette did some wild things during her career too.....but nothing close to Miley. While Annette went off on a non-G rated tangent now and then, she was well rounded and frequently displayed a caring side. This caused her to remain a top draw in all that she did....even when she became older and sick.

    In my opinion. Miley has never learned the art of being both daring, lovable and real. Therefore, I doubt that her career will take on the longevity and minions of doting. devoted fans as did (and posthumously still does) Annette Funecello. The lady had a great big beautiful heart. and demeanor that made her seem even more beautiful that she was. Again in my opinion. Miley is about the moment...and her career will likely be fast to fade.
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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Not sure why it has to be an either/or proposition. If those cases are to be devoted to prominent figures associated with Disney, than Annette certainly should be in there, and a photo of Hannah Montana is not out of place as well. It's an acknowledgment of the character and the show as much as the actress.

    And consider this - as they say in the Mansion - what would you do with Darlene Gillespie? She was a wonderful and very talented original Mousketeer, who got into some pretty big trouble later in life.

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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Quote Originally Posted by David Mercury View Post
    Not sure why it has to be an either/or proposition. If those cases are to be devoted to prominent figures associated with Disney, than Annette certainly should be in there, and a photo of Hannah Montana is not out of place as well. It's an acknowledgment of the character and the show as much as the actress.

    And consider this - as they say in the Mansion - what would you do with Darlene Gillespie? She was a wonderful and very talented original Mousketeer, who got into some pretty big trouble later in life.
    I'll agree with this. There's plenty of room for Annette and Hannah Montana acknowledgement both. Wonder if Miley would consider doing a dance scene in a new Hannah Montana movie reprisal?
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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    i think the fact that the Disney Channel is now re-airing the Hannah movie
    is a sign that Disney is trying to cash in on her press

    rather then stepping away from her they are trying to redraw people from her


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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Quote Originally Posted by David Mercury View Post
    And consider this - as they say in the Mansion - what would you do with Darlene Gillespie?
    Darlene wasn't remotely in the same league as Annette in terms of being a Disney icon.

    The point isn't that having Miley in the exit to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln is a bad joke because of her crotch-grabbing at the VMA. The point is that having Miley in the exit to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln was a bad joke to begin with.

    It has been, is, and will continue to be a tacky, tasteless, blatant marketeering move to promote a Disney brand. Everything about it has been eye-rollingly embarrassing from the get-go, including and especially Tony Baxter claiming credit for the idea and his protestations of being irritated when people complained about its inappropriateness.

    This isn't about Miley's T&A at the VMA. It's about the clueless Disney management that has been pushing and pandering Miley in the exit to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln.
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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Quote Originally Posted by Mykayla View Post
    i think the fact that the Disney Channel is now re-airing the Hannah movie
    is a sign that Disney is trying to cash in on her press

    rather then stepping away from her they are trying to redraw people from her
    And if this is true and the ruling Disney exec's are trying to draw to the lowest common denominator and are ok with a former Disney star virtually demeaning herself and strutting around onstage like a cat in heat... then I have lost even more respect for Disney.

    And I don't think I will ever get the image of her tongue out of my brain. There is not enough brain bleach on the planet to wipe that image from my memory... seriously... why the tongue hanging out of her mouth as far as she can get it constantly? Even Gene Simmons didn't show his tongue on stage as much as she did.

    And while I am... older... I'm no prude. But what she did on stage was just... unnecessary in my opinion. She did it for shock value, she did it for attention, she did it to get people talking, and succeeded. But if she had to go this far to get attention, what will she have to do the next time? Will she still be relevant 5, even 10 years from now?




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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    The gallery at the end of Mr. Lincoln, in fact the whole exhibit, is a kind of a shrine, and no living person should be enshrined because they still have the capacity to massively disappoint and tarnish their own image as well as the image of those who would present them for veneration.
    How about having only dead heroes in such a place? They can do no harm, and there are plenty to choose from.
    Why not keep Hanna and her ilk in the retail outlets where they belong?

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    ^ This.
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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    Darlene wasn't remotely in the same league as Annette in terms of being a Disney icon.

    The point isn't that having Miley in the exit to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln is a bad joke because of her crotch-grabbing at the VMA. The point is that having Miley in the exit to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln was a bad joke to begin with.

    It has been, is, and will continue to be a tacky, tasteless, blatant marketeering move to promote a Disney brand. Everything about it has been eye-rollingly embarrassing from the get-go, including and especially Tony Baxter claiming credit for the idea and his protestations of being irritated when people complained about its inappropriateness.

    This isn't about Miley's T&A at the VMA. It's about the clueless Disney management that has been pushing and pandering Miley in the exit to Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln.
    THIS. My sentiments exactly. I really couldn't care less about Cyrus' recent behavior. She wants attention and people are giving it to her. (I think my favorite thing to come out of the VMA scandal was a post of significant news events happening around the world with Miley Cyrus photo-shopped into them with the caption "If she's twerking on them, maybe we'll pay attention.") My issue with the her image in Great Moment's with Mr. Lincoln's exit has nothing to do with recent news headlines, but how the Hannah/Miley poster has always felt like a blatant and tasteless slap of commercialism after a heartfelt and genuine piece of Disney history and artistry. I've always found this clash of nuanced, elegant show and pandering marketing particularly jarring.

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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    How is it that having Miley in the exit hall a form of blatant marketing, but having Annette up there not?

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    Re: Opera House: Miley VS. Annette

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    How is it that having Miley in the exit hall a form of blatant marketing, but having Annette up there not?
    Annette has no music line, makeup kits, dresses, diaries, DVDs, Disney Channel programs or other products from which Disney can profit.

    Miley's character of Hanna Montana does.

    Which, of course, is the sole reason Miley is up there in the first place. (No one actually believes she's a musical talent of the caliber of Michael Jackson and Elvis... do they?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    It has been, is, and will continue to be a tacky, tasteless, blatant marketeering move to promote a Disney brand.
    If a single picture at the exit of an attraction in the 21st century is "a tacky, tasteless, blatant marketeering move to promote a Disney brand" what about the Mickey Mouse Club Theater? It opened, in 1955 Fantasyland, ten weeks before the first episode even aired. In what way was the the Mickey Mouse Club relevant to Fantasyland other than to blatantly promote a future Disney brand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    (No one actually believes she's a musical talent of the caliber of Michael Jackson and Elvis... do they?)
    Wasn’t she known as the 5th Beatle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timicus View Post
    In what way was the the Mickey Mouse Club relevant to Fantasyland other than to blatantly promote a future Disney brand?
    There's a major difference in thematic intrusiveness between a Mickey Mouse Club theater in Fantasyland, and Miley Cyrus in the exit of Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln.

    A previous poster said it well:

    Quote Originally Posted by gatheringrosebuds View Post
    ...My issue with her image in Great Moment's with Mr. Lincoln's exit has nothing to do with recent news headlines, but how the Hannah/Miley poster has always felt like a blatant and tasteless slap of commercialism after a heartfelt and genuine piece of Disney history and artistry. I've always found this clash of nuanced, elegant show and pandering marketing particularly jarring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    There's a major difference in thematic intrusiveness between a Mickey Mouse Club theater in Fantasyland, and Miley Cyrus in the exit of Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln.
    Seriously? An entire attraction named after a promotional tool to sell a brand, in a land that it shares zero relevance with is less intrusive than a photo amongst many at the exit of an attraction?

    In what way is the Mickey Mouse Club relevant to the Medieval-themed fairgrounds? At least Miley Cyrus is a recording artist on a wall with other recording artist. People may disagree with the fact that she has the talent or relevance "required" to be on the wall. However, unlike an out of theme TV show name slapped onto a building, she is a recording artist, which is in the theme of the place the pictures are displayed. If Cyrus is disqualified from the wall because some people don't care for her talents than all the other pictured performers (drug abusers and non-drug abusers) should be removed as they will garner dissent from some portion of the viewing guests.
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