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    Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment




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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    About time. I can't believe that Disney allowed Alice to drag on this long. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Long overdue with Alice. Hopefully there are no complications in rebuilding the track and it opens quickly.

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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by calsig31 View Post
    About time. I can't believe that Disney allowed Alice to drag on this long. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by calsig31 View Post
    About time. I can't believe that Disney allowed Alice to drag on this long. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
    Who else were they blaming?

    Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter

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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    ORGOCH: The Queen a Farts! That's who they was blamin'!!!!

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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft16 View Post
    Who else were they blaming?
    Well, people HERE tend to blame OSHA. Or MyMagic Plus. I'm pretty sure we can figure out a way to hang it on APs too.
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by BogLurch View Post
    Well, people HERE tend to blame OSHA. Or MyMagic Plus. I'm pretty sure we can figure out a way to hang it on APs too.
    I know who gets blamed by people here, but the claim was that Disney has no one to blame but themselves. I was just curious if they were blaming anyone.

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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    I'm just going to do what people do on WDWMagic and blame Meg...

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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by BogLurch View Post
    Well, people HERE tend to blame OSHA. Or MyMagic Plus. I'm pretty sure we can figure out a way to hang it on APs too.
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by BogLurch View Post
    Well, people HERE tend to blame OSHA. Or MyMagic Plus. I'm pretty sure we can figure out a way to hang it on APs too.
    LOL that's funny!

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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by BogLurch View Post
    Well, people HERE tend to blame OSHA. Or MyMagic Plus. I'm pretty sure we can figure out a way to hang it on APs too.
    But it was OSHA. Why else would they put it up?
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by LordVader View Post
    I'm just going to do what people do on WDWMagic and blame Meg...
    Yeah, nice going, Meg! (Thought it in Peter's voice! Rotfl)
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneytwins View Post
    But it was OSHA. Why else would they put it up?
    It's there to allow for MyMagic+ sensors that only need to be there because there are too many APs in the park.

    Or, if you were serious, OSHA's reactive. They set standards, the businesses are responsible for how they comply. They are inspected by county inspectors as usual, but OSHA is generally only involved after the fact to determine fault in accidents etc. For instance, the SM rebuild and closures that are factually part of an OSHA action were related to an inspection triggered by an accident involving a worker cleaning SM's exterior (source, thedisneyblog.com and others, cited source encapsulated well). They CAN inspect outside reactive situations, but only if the business in question is within certain fairly defined boundaries. Normally they only deal with the aftermath, though.

    With that in mind, following their standards helps ensure any incident reports show your company in a favorable light. Disney's internal review process has proven to be extremely... active... in this regard.
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    Re: Both Alice and Mermaid close next month for refurbishment

    Ah. Here we go. Borrowed from a blog, but what I can find this looks to be the original release regarding Alice:
    During an unrelated visit to the park, a Cal OSHA representative observed a maintenance cast member on the track of the Alice in Wonderland attraction and made us aware of a potential safety issue. We agreed with the opportunity to enhance safety and voluntarily took down the attraction until modifications can be made.

    An interim solution — likely scaffolding or another acceptable barrier — will be erected on the exterior “vine” area of the track, which will enhance cast safety. It should be in place within the next few weeks.
    So there's the "horse's mouth" - OSHA in park on unrelated issue (SM worker fall), mentioned "Um, hey, guy walking around on the exposed areas of Alice", Disney took the bit in it's mouth and the rest is internal decisions on what Management felt best.
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