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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyMcG86 View Post
    I spent open to close at DL yesterday and did not notice what I would consider blatant like cutting. And thanks to MC, I was actually looking for it. I definitely saw cases where one family member would join with their family ahead, but they almost always seemed to be retrieving snacks or parked the stroller. Not saying this is right, but it doesn't seem to have the same intent to me as people who bring in large groups or just outright move in front of people just to get ahead.

    I did notice people cutting in some food and bag check lines, but those queues are not as well defined so they may have misunderstood... That's what I like to think, anyway.

    Today I'll be in DCA, so I'm curious if I'll see more or a problem there.
    Following up - I only had one experience with cutting. I was about to get on my assigned car for RSR (assigned my row, waiting for gate to open) when a boy age 9 or so cut in front of me. His friend did the same in the row next to our's. I tapped his shoulder and said "I don't think so, get behind me". He and his friend didn't say a word, but he stayed behind to wait for the next car (as he was supposed to) and his friend got in mine. At least their plan was foiled.

    All I could think was "where did you learn this is ok?".

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyMcG86 View Post
    Following up - I only had one experience with cutting. I was about to get on my assigned car for RSR (assigned my row, waiting for gate to open) when a boy age 9 or so cut in front of me. His friend did the same in the row next to our's. I tapped his shoulder and said "I don't think so, get behind me". He and his friend didn't say a word, but he stayed behind to wait for the next car (as he was supposed to) and his friend got in mine. At least their plan was foiled.

    All I could think was "where did you learn this is ok?".
    From the inaction of Disney. The kids knew that nothing would happen other than it might not work. There was no consequence for doing it. Now imagine if Disney cared about it, if Disney had a CM kick them out of the park and ban them for a year. You can bet their classmates would soon learn and in no time those classmates would think twice when they were at the park.... but when there are no consequences for doing something wrong beyond someone saying don't do that, why would a kid not do it?

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackster View Post
    From the inaction of Disney. The kids knew that nothing would happen other than it might not work. There was no consequence for doing it. Now imagine if Disney cared about it, if Disney had a CM kick them out of the park and ban them for a year. You can bet their classmates would soon learn and in no time those classmates would think twice when they were at the park.... but when there are no consequences for doing something wrong beyond someone saying don't do that, why would a kid not do it?
    Not to mention bad parenting / lack of parenting!!!

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Disneyland Dad View Post
    I think my pet peeve is when my family and I choose to watch the Soundsational parade and we take the time to sit down an hour or some times more before the parade starts and there are people in large groups who wait till the last minute and force themselves into tiny spots next to you causing the viewing experience to be uncomfortable. And many may say just tell people the spots are taken, but it more about people just having the courtesy to realize that their behavior is annoying.
    This. I am especially peeved when parents shove their children through gaps so that they can be in front, and then follow their kid forward. I am MORE than happy to allow a child to stand in front of me, but how about asking first? It also DOESN'T mean that the 6'2" father of the child gets to move to the front as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackster View Post
    From the inaction of Disney. The kids knew that nothing would happen other than it might not work. There was no consequence for doing it. Now imagine if Disney cared about it, if Disney had a CM kick them out of the park and ban them for a year. You can bet their classmates would soon learn and in no time those classmates would think twice when they were at the park.... but when there are no consequences for doing something wrong beyond someone saying don't do that, why would a kid not do it?
    Is it just me, or does kicking a 9 year old out seem a little extreme,? Sounds like this interaction happened exactly as it should have. The kid made a bad move, and someone in society who saw it stepped up and told them "no."

    As much as CMs might be needed to watch for line-cutter, I don't want to turn Disneyland into a place where CMs sit in security-box like structures overlooking the line. This is why I have a hard to always blaming the CMs… most of the time, they don't see it!
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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    ....and if they see it, TDA has restricted them from taking action so again it's not the CM's fault and yet yes, it is "Disney's fault" because management said to take no action.

    Banning the kid from the park? Maybe a little harsh but some form of action should be taken. Something, anything, if just to show that these actions have consequences. It may not even have been bad parenting, God knows my folks did their best but when parents aren't around and kids are in the influence of their "I dare you to do it" friends, bad ideas become reality. Either way, some form of action other than the reward of seeing that they get away with it.


    When a society is so overly concerned about political correctness and hurt feelings to the point that a mere child is allowed to get away with breaking the rules, then we've truly lost our ability to remain in control of the standards that once built us.

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by fifthrider View Post
    ....and if they see it, TDA has restricted them from taking action so again it's not the CM's fault and yet yes, it is "Disney's fault" because management said to take no action.

    Banning the kid from the park? Maybe a little harsh but some form of action should be taken. Something, anything, if just to show that these actions have consequences. It may not even have been bad parenting, God knows my folks did their best but when parents aren't around and kids are in the influence of their "I dare you to do it" friends, bad ideas become reality. Either way, some form of action other than the reward of seeing that they get away with it.


    When a society is so overly concerned about political correctness and hurt feelings to the point that a mere child is allowed to get away with breaking the rules, then we've truly lost our ability to remain in control of the standards that once built us.
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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by cruise View Post
    Is it just me, or does kicking a 9 year old out seem a little extreme,? Sounds like this interaction happened exactly as it should have. The kid made a bad move, and someone in society who saw it stepped up and told them "no."

    As much as CMs might be needed to watch for line-cutter, I don't want to turn Disneyland into a place where CMs sit in security-box like structures overlooking the line. This is why I have a hard to always blaming the CMs… most of the time, they don't see it!
    No extreme would have been banning them for life... but a year seems appropriate to make a point. Simply booting them from the park does very little, especially if they were locals with annual passes.

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyMcG86 View Post
    Following up - I only had one experience with cutting. I was about to get on my assigned car for RSR (assigned my row, waiting for gate to open) when a boy age 9 or so cut in front of me. His friend did the same in the row next to our's. I tapped his shoulder and said "I don't think so, get behind me". He and his friend didn't say a word, but he stayed behind to wait for the next car (as he was supposed to) and his friend got in mine. At least their plan was foiled.

    All I could think was "where did you learn this is ok?".
    My question is where is the kids parent(s)? I thought they weren't suppose to be running around like that in the parks. Wasn't it not long ago that DL said if you were 13 and younger that you had to be with someone 14 and older? That included riding with someone on rides as well from what I remember reading. Let's say the parent(s) don't want to ride, well they should have to stay in the line at the very least with the child and make sure that kid can go on the ride without them. I know some can't handle certain rides and the kids might love them but they should wait with them at the very least. Otherwise this is what happens at times..kids pushing up to the front to by pass the line. CMs should be asking where the parent(s) are when they say 1 and they are that young. If they have no manners as it is with pushing ahead then you have to wonder how they will behave on the rides as well. Beside that I wouldn't have let my kid around that age go off alone and my kids know how to behave and stand in line and not do stuff against the rules.
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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Their parents may have been in line with them, then got split up for the ride - which only requires an age of at least 7 I think?

    I blame the parents, to an extent, and I think I handled the situation as well as I could have. I caught him, told him it was not ok, and I think I was stern enough to make him reconsider next time. Hopefully.

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    I've been going to Disneyland every year for probably ten years now (except I missed last year for WDW) and didn't ever experience blatant line cutting until my last trip. I mean, if you're trying to catch up with your party, then by all means, but this was not really one of those situations. I was standing in line for Space Mountain with my husband and there was this family of 4 behind us. The parents let the kids run around and swing on the chains and just do whatever while they stood behind us. Then the kids settled up right in front of us, playing and laughing, but staying in the line. So the mom moved up, and then the dad pushed past us saying, "Well, I guess we're up here now." No, your kids were messing around and you should have been telling them to wait their turn. No, you are not "up here now" because you were behind us and didn't take care of your kids. Your kids running around does not constitute cutting. We didn't want to cause any trouble so we just let it go and loudly talked about how rude cutting was but they didn't care. I don't know about you, but when I was a kid if you cut in line (not in Disneyland, just anywhere else) you got sent to the back because that was wrong to do. I thought maybe it was just because my husband and I are young (20s) so they didn't respect us and thought it would be okay to cut because they had kids and we were just young adults, but now I'm thinking it might be a combination of that and just the increase in cutting today.


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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by fantasygirl View Post
    The parents let the kids run around and swing on the chains and just do whatever while they stood behind us.
    Just a random sidenote, but I hate when this happens. Absolutely hate it. I've told people to control their kids before because they let them run and play around in line and they inevitably bash into other people.

    I have honestly let people cut me in line before because of this just to get the kids away from me. I was walking in the queue for Indy in February and this giant group of Asian tourists (by giant I mean like 25 people) were walking behind me and they let their kids all under the age of 10-11 run in the front of the line. The kids kept ramming into me, kicking me, pushing me, you name it and they were doing it. My mom and I got tired of it so we said screw it and let them walk ahead of us. We didn't know at the time that it was a such a big group, but oh well. It beat getting kicked to death by annoying kids.
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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Kids running around in line was a big issue. More than cutting, for me, on my last trip.

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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrFink View Post
    Just a random sidenote, but I hate when this happens. Absolutely hate it. I've told people to control their kids before because they let them run and play around in line and they inevitably bash into other people.
    Ditto. I can't stand it when I see kids misbehaving and the parents completely ignore it.

    I'll actually speak directly to the kids. The other day I was on the bus and the girl sitting perpendicular to me (who was about 9, ie, old enough to know better) kicked me in the knee. The first time I didn't say anything; the second time I very firmly told her that she needed to stop kicking me and watch where her feet were going. The mother gave me a death glare, but honestly...the mother should have said something so I didn't need to.

    Every now and then you get good parents, though. This afternoon I was getting on the bus with about four bags of groceries and as I stepped up, a kid darted right in front of me to board. And then I heard a loud voice saying "let the lady board first! Get back!" Yay for good moms.
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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by fifthrider View Post
    Banning the kid from the park? Maybe a little harsh but some form of action should be taken. Something, anything, if just to show that these actions have consequences. It may not even have been bad parenting, God knows my folks did their best but when parents aren't around and kids are in the influence of their "I dare you to do it" friends, bad ideas become reality. Either way, some form of action other than the reward of seeing that they get away with it.
    I agree with this. And I do agree that good parents can have kids that behave horribly sometimes - the only time I WILL judge the parents is when they are right there with the kid, they see the misbehavior and they do nothing to correct it.

    In the case of the kids who cut in line on RSR, etc., perhaps the penalty should be that they don't get to ride at all. They get immediately removed from the queue and escorted to the attraction exit. What's that, they waited two hours to ride RSR? Well, that's too bad, they should have thought about that before they decided to cut. I'd actually like to see that penalty for adults who cut too, when I think of it. If you can't play nicely with others in the sandbox you have to get out; that sort of philosophy.
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    Re: Line cutting - Why does it seem worse these days ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Malina View Post
    In the case of the kids who cut in line on RSR, etc., perhaps the penalty should be that they don't get to ride at all. They get immediately removed from the queue and escorted to the attraction exit. What's that, they waited two hours to ride RSR? Well, that's too bad, they should have thought about that before they decided to cut. I'd actually like to see that penalty for adults who cut too, when I think of it. If you can't play nicely with others in the sandbox you have to get out; that sort of philosophy.
    I like that idea - or at least send them to the back of the line since I'm not sure how easy it would be to identify the kids through multiple shifts and keep them totally off the ride.

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