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    Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    What about the burning settler's cabin??

    It's a shame that this neat effect along the Rivers of America has laid dormant for years. I can't imagine what Disney's excuse is, other than neglect left over from... well, you know...the Pressler age. It can't be that expensive to maintain, can it? Ok, so gas is expensive- at the very least they could do something like the burning scene from PotC (which, btw, Disneyland did with the cabin during the gas crisis in the 70's). And it isn't politically incorrect, anymore that is, with the endangered eagle's nest instead of the drunken moonshiner. Heck, the burning cabin even shows up on the most recent park map! I call that false advertising.

    I have noticed recently on the DLRR that the settler's cabin is easier to see (that's why I'm bringing this up)- for all the time it's spent just sitting there Disney let the trees grow over it, perhaps hoping people would forget about it. Alas, there are pesky little DL know-it-alls like me!

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Since there's working being done on the entrance to Frontierland right now, maybe they'll keep going and refurb the entire land. It sorely needs it. Besides the overgrown not burning anymore cabin, there's the droopy eyed animatronic broken bear, and the big empty spot where cascade peak use to be, and a closed Fort Wilderness, and lets not forget the missing in action super hot sexy showgirls of the Golden Horseshoe Salon!

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Poor Frontierland. Poor Tom Sawyer Island.

    It needs some lovin'! It definitely does. When you go on the Mark Twain and such, that back area just looks so depressing.
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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    If showgirls come back to DL, I'll eat an E-ticket. Something like that would be easier to sell (literally) in DTD than it would in DL proper nowadays.

    I don't think anyone has any objections to telling guests that something is on fire, after all that's the excuse that the fort isn't open anymore. I think it comes down to "gas is expensive and any other solution will look cheesy from the boats."

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Quote Originally Posted by Lore
    And lets not forget the missing in action super hot sexy showgirls of the Golden Horseshoe Salon!
    Amen to that...I like the show that I saw in January, but the original should be brought back in some form.
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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Any pictures of the burning cabin...I am dieing to see it...

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    I never bought into the moonshine theory, that settler got scalped and his place torched by blood thirsty injuns!

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    The reason that the settler's cabin is not on fire is because of something much more severe. A gas line was accidentally severed during a refurbishment and the costs to fix the problem are prohibitive.

    Since the orginal concept behind the show element was a little insensitive to native Americans and the moonshine idea was a little contrived, it is probably best that Disney spend the money to improve the other parts of the Rivers of America, instead.

    Cascade Peak, especially, should have never been removed since it was effectively the finale. Something showy needs to go into that space.

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    ORDDU: My sisters and I had heard the very same explanation as you, PragmaticIdealist, duckling. But it's such a shame to not have the cabin burning any longer. At least the one in Florida's Magic Kingdom continues to burn.

    ORWEN: I miss Cascade Peak, too! It was such a wonderful place for a witch to take a quick shower on a hot day at the park.

    ORGOCH: Hmpf!! Too bad yer not allergic ta water just like ol' Maggie Hamilton was! Otherwise ya'd be all washed up 'n we'd all be rid of ya by now!

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Quote Originally Posted by Witches of Morva
    At least the one in Florida's Magic Kingdom continues to burn.
    That's news to me! It wasn't when I was there. And there was no reference in the spiel, either. Just Pocahontas music blasted over the PA in your ear and then talk about how these indian statues are peaceful, trading, casino-operating type Indians and not the kind that would kill a train full of weird looking people.

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    So much for the "Hard Facts" that built America. Every single indian just rolled over and loved having their land taken away. Talk about insensitive to native Americans! Talk about insensitive to story telling and Disneyland! I say the cabin should be returned to it's original state!

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Quote Originally Posted by Lore
    So much for the "Hard Facts" that built America. Every single indian just rolled over and loved having their land taken away. Talk about insensitive to native Americans! Talk about insensitive to story telling and Disneyland! I say the cabin should be returned to it's original state!
    I don't think it says they loved taking their land away, but I think they're trying to avoid making a political statement altogether here, as this company and others from an era now gone has been responsible for so many caricatures of native Americans as dumb killers.

    I find the portrayal of Andrew Jackson at the Hall of Presidents at WDW a bit more offensive. There, he's almost shown briefly keeping the country together in the middle of a race-related divide over black slaves, all the while skipping over his treatment of Indians and the trail of tears. Obviously the whole thing is about saluting Presidents, but that was the wrong guy to showcase while talking about human rights to freedom.

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    Another limerick from the jungles only self service witch doctor.

    "They once caused a cabin to burn
    till politics became a concern
    that the flames symbolized
    our history revised
    so it's boring and not what we yearn."

    -Ned

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    Re: Give Matt a Match - Relight the Burning Cabin

    According to the Fall 2000 Disney Magazine issue of "Ask Dave", this is the reason they give:

    "The burning cabin has evolved over the years. From 1955 to 1987, the cabin was set afire by 'the action of unfriendly indians', who had killed the settler. In 1988, the narration was changed to portray the cabin as that of a drunken moonshiner. More recently, the burning cabin, which is shown to have set a tree on fire, was used to show how nature is affected by mans carelessness."

    But that was then, this is now so perhaps man became smart .

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