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    No new rides for any disney park

    I heard because of the intence manpower it took to build Expedition Everest. That Finding Nemo is going to be the last new attraction at ANY Disney park for at least a few (maybe 4-7 at most) years, and that they still would be doing planning, dreaming, making concepts of future attractions, just not doing any action about it. I think this might be true seeing that Finding Nemo is the only constrution action going on for a new attraction.

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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000
    I heard because of the intence manpower it took to build Expedition Everest. That Finding Nemo is going to be the last new attraction at ANY Disney park for at least a few (maybe 4-7 at most) years, and that they still would be doing planning, dreaming, making concepts of future attractions, just not doing any action about it. I think this might be true seeing that Finding Nemo is the only constrution action going on for a new attraction.
    Highly unlikely. Hong Kong is already slated to get new attractions and the studios in Paris also has an addition on the way.

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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000
    I heard because of the intence manpower it took to build Expedition Everest. That Finding Nemo is going to be the last new attraction at ANY Disney park for at least a few (maybe 4-7 at most) years, and that they still would be doing planning, dreaming, making concepts of future attractions, just not doing any action about it. I think this might be true seeing that Finding Nemo is the only constrution action going on for a new attraction.
    Well I heard that theyare going to put in 5 new E rides in every park in the next 5 years.

    Your statement is as logical as mine. no source, no reason. no logic.
    what does manpower have to do with building a ride, do you think that Disney CM's who make $8.00 a hour are building the rides.

    In todays construction it really does not take as many people to build something as it once did. I can not speak for Everest construction and how people it really took, But I can speak on the new library being built at the college where I work. Most days the amount of people working on this building was between 15 and 25.

    there are many reasons a project might not get built, cost of supplies are high, steel, and cement is harder to get and more costly because of the building boom in China and other Countries. Enviromental and safety conserns add a high cost to a large project.
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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    From The Orlando Sentinal:

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...,6361501.story

    Iger said Disney has less than 5 percent of the family-vacation market and, at least for now, can earn more without huge investments.

    "We don't intend to go through another capital cycle to the extent we went through back a decade ago, or five or 10 years ago. We don't have to," he said. "There's a lot we can do with what we have invested to drive growth."

    Though he didn't specifically name Magical Express, Iger said the company can now get customers and their luggage from the airplane directly to a Walt Disney World hotel.

    "The result of that is we move a lot more people on property. And when they're on property, versus off, they spend a lot more money with us and more time with us, and that's created growth from the investments we made in the hotels," he said.

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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    Quote Originally Posted by tahoebob54

    Your statement is as logical as mine. no source, no reason. no logic.
    what does manpower have to do with building a ride, do you think that Disney CM's who make $8.00 a hour are building the rides.

    In todays construction it really does not take as many people to build something as it once did. I can not speak for Everest construction and how people it really took, But I can speak on the new library being built at the college where I work. Most days the amount of people working on this building was between 15 and 25.

    there are many reasons a project might not get built, cost of supplies are high, steel, and cement is harder to get and more costly because of the building boom in China and other Countries. Enviromental and safety conserns add a high cost to a large project.
    Labor is by far the largest cost on any project. The "manpower" statement is a reference to those who create the attractions. We are now seeing the effects of the Imagineering lay-offs that have taken place over the past 5 years.

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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    "No new rides" is an extreme statement, but it is true that there will be a siginificant slowdown in the creation of new attractions as a result of decisions made 3 years ago.

    Quote from Jay Rasulo:

    And beyond 2003, our average annual capital spending target for domestic Resorts is materially below $1 billion per year.


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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    For any major attrraction the time from concept to open is easily going to be 3-5 years. With the cuts over the last 3 to 5 years in WDI obviously not much is in the pipeline. What is in the pipeline is going to slow down while JL gets to weigh in on projects.

    Iger's comments sound like an explanation to why not much is in the pipeline - propbably after a reporter says "Wow Expedition Everest is a great new addition; what's next?"
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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    See where I think the breakdown of the statement lies is all the massive influx of capital in Anaheim related to the 50th. Now if you said Disneyland will not get any brand spanking new attractions in the next 5 years I would probably agree-

    why?

    Well basically between all the refurbs and restorations they need don't it. New updates to POTC, HM, SUBS, Star Tours, etc will continue to bring in bodies to the park long after the 50th as value is placed back on the classic rides.

    What I don't believe is that Disney management ISN'T planning new rides and attraction to cement DCA. They know its a half day park now and its not far from being a full day experiance worth sucking in multi-day revenue if only they can add more to it

    What I also can't wrap my brain around is hiring a guy like Lasster to head up the attractions and then say by the way- nope, no new rides or toys. His comment was placed in the Orlando Sentinal so my theory is that his reference may have been specific to the Florida parks. Adding new rides has only slightly elivated attendence for them. Now those parks are in need of maintance and refurbs so I suspect it could be a true statement "no new rides just improvements on the rides we got"







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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    Last time I heard, quite a bit of activity was going on throughout the extended 50th Anniversary year (how far can it stretch anyway?):

    http://www.mickeynews.com/News/Displ...id_E_12245Ring

    Anaheim:

    - 2007, new technology will take Disney storytelling to the next level as the "subs" return to Disneyland in Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage.

    Hong Kong Disneyland:
    - Summer 2006 - First Autopia with electric powered vehicles opens
    (- We also know about Stitch and the UFO thing now)

    Disneyland Paris:
    - 2006: Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast
    - 2007: New 'land' - Toon Studios
    - 2008: Twilight Zone Tower of Terror !!!

    Disneyland Tokyo:
    - 2006: DisneySea will open Tower of Terror !!!

    Disney Cruise Line:
    - May 2006: New 7 night itinerary
    - Septemeber 2006: New 10 and 11 night interaries
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    That was announced back in September, and there have been a few more announcements since then, such as the refurbs in POTC and HM. I think there will always be more big attractions happening everywhere.

    Disney is experiencing massive amounts of capital from the parks at the moment. Indeed, ALL of the parks - even the perceived 'failure's (DCA, Hong Kong, The Artist Formerly Known as EuroDisney) have all been seeing consistently high attendance figures in the last quarter. That money is going to be injected back into the parks to keep, as we say in Australia, bums on seats.

    With John Lassester now installed at WDI, we have to assume that big things are planned within the next few years.
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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    So, i guess its WDW that isnt getting the greenlight for new projects? All that capital needs to go to DCA and WDS at Paris.

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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    The only thing new slated for WDW is the POTC overhaul much like the one we are having here.

    All they have at the moment are rumors:

    Magic Kingdom: Replace COP with new Incredibles attraction and also replacing Timekeeper with Monsters Inc.

    Disney Studios: Replace Motor Car Parade with Block Party Bash and Star Tours Version 2

    Epcot: Finding Nemo attraction in the Living Seas.

    Animal Kingdom: New Finding Nemo Show in Theater of the Wild.
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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureImagineer183
    So, i guess its WDW that isnt getting the greenlight for new projects? All that capital needs to go to DCA and WDS at Paris.
    FWIW, WDS is not directly owned by Disney. The Paris Resort is an independent business entity that is partially owned by Disney. They have to raise their own capital for expansion.

    What will ultimately determine whether or not Disney invests any more money in the US resorts is the increased return on investment new investments would generate. They seem to believe that no new investment is required at WDW to not only keep up current attendence and customer spending, they believe they can bring in even more business with the status quo.

    If this fails to materialize, we can expect new E-tickets to be approved of and built.

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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    When Iger mentions not adding things like they did 5-10 years ago I'm not so sure he's talking about rides. He's talking about new parks.

    Think about it ... in the past 10 years they have opened AK, DCA, WDSP, TDS and HKDL. I'm thinking there won't be any new parks but they will be adding things to those parks.


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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot
    Think about it ... in the past 10 years they have opened AK, DCA, WDSP, TDS and HKDL. I'm thinking there won't be any new parks but they will be adding things to those parks.
    Agreed. I'm of the opinion that Disney parks are only special places if there are only a handful of them. From my point of view, they are special because they are all so far away. Even though there are two resorts in the US, these remain special because they are far flung on either side of the country. That big area in the middle is Disney parkless, making it a special trek in either direction for families on vacation.

    To maintain this, I think that Disney should stop opening new parks at this point. Parks in two parts of Asia, Europe and bi-coastal US cover most regional areas (even Hong Kong is considered to be too close to Australia to warrant another one opening here). I'm in the camp that says any more 'magic kingdoms' make the original less magical. While there is something to be said for bringing the Disney experience to you, rather than having to go to the Disney experience, it is nice to know that it is not something you can find anywhere.

    Each park has carved out its own little niche: California is the original and has DCA to expand with; WDW has its multi-parks; Paris has Studios; Tokyo has DisneySea. Even Hong Kong, which is less than a year old, already has a distinct look and feel in areas such as Adventureland. The idea now, I think, is to consolidate those parks by playing to the strengths, and bolstering the weaknesses, of each. DCA, for example, has ample space and a few fine rides. The idea there would be to overcome the perceived lack of theme, E-Tickets and use all that lovely space they have. I wouldn't be surprised if more and more new rides at California are announced in DCA rather than that other park across the way.
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    Re: No new rides for any disney park

    In Al's Column from 2/28 he says:

    Matt Ouimet is reportedly thrilled with this confluence of events, just as the 50th delivers financial performance even stronger than the originally optimistic Company projections thought possible. Now that it's been proven that a market exists for multi-day visits to Anaheim by free-spending tourists that are always more profitable than day tripping locals or grazing Annual Passholders, Matt has plenty of ammunition to argue for even more substantial capital investment in the Anaheim property.
    That would suggest that we will see more rides in Anaheim than we are currently seeing, if there is more capital, specifically at DCA, I'm sure.

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