Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM?

fjhuerta · 04-06-2006, 12:45 PM

Hi all!

All this talk about refurbishments to what are, arguably, the most beloved Disneyland attractions ever got me thinking... and reading.

The Haunted Mansion's backstory apparently has something to do with a bride who killed his husband... or a ghost who killed them both... or something. BUT - had I not read about it, I'd have basically said "Oh, the HM? It's just a haunted house, it has no story". I never thought there was a plot, other than "trying to find a way out!".

I never fully understood the Pirates of the Caribbean story, either. I suppose it's someone reminscing of old pirates, and the scenes are sort of little stories to themselves, ending, of course, with the Pirates being locked up. Am I wrong here, too?

The reason I ask is simple - I'm surprised that Disneyland is a land that tells all sort of stories - yet its two best attractions don't have very strong plots...

Devestator · 04-06-2006, 02:26 PM

Not really a story on Haunted Mansion, but the pirates story (for Disney Land) is that you see the pirates attack the town, (eventually, they become the skeletons in the beginning) and get drunk, and all die (don't you love these happy disney things?

thejoshualee · 04-06-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fjhuerta

The Haunted Mansion's backstory apparently has something to do with a bride who killed his husband...

(bold is mine)

Well, perhaps in WDW the bride is male, I thought s/he was a bit un-dainty, but the Disneyland bride is all woman.

ahh... finding humor in unintentional places.

fjhuerta · 04-06-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thejoshualee

(bold is mine)

Well, perhaps in WDW the bride is male, I thought s/he was a bit un-dainty, but the Disneyland bride is all woman.

ahh... finding humor in unintentional places.

Sorry... she was a bit flat-chested, that's all.

Hilsbro · 04-06-2006, 03:19 PM

lollll....i feel sorry for the bride...

thejoshualee · 04-06-2006, 03:24 PM

her chest wasn't always flat ya know... the effects of rotting in the ground can be murder on your figure.

Plus if her chest was too big you wouldn't be able to see that cool flashing mickey head in there.

robotpirates · 04-06-2006, 03:25 PM

*facepalm* re: joshualee. We still love you.

thejoshualee · 04-06-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robotpirates

*facepalm* re: joshualee. We still love you.

you mean that's not mickey mouse in there? I though she must have bought some flashing jewlry in Tomorowland or something...

Ghostbuster626 · 04-06-2006, 03:55 PM

There will be soon....

robotpirates · 04-06-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thejoshualee

you mean that's not mickey mouse in there? I though she must have bought some flashing jewlry in Tomorowland or something...

Strobe light jewelry is a hit in the great beyond, in fact.

thejoshualee · 04-06-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by robotpirates

Strobe light jewelry is a hit in the great beyond, in fact.

Every time I see a ghost in Disneyland they are wearing some... they were either ghosts or pre teens.... hard to say... but they sure shreeked alot.

fjhuerta · 04-06-2006, 04:28 PM

How appropiate... the theme is the Pirates of the Caribbean, and there's a threadjack in progress!!!

Hyperbole · 04-06-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fjhuerta

How appropiate... the theme is the Pirates of the Caribbean, and there's a threadjack in progress!!!

MiceChat at its finest!

Nope, there's no "official" story for either attraction.

MasterGracey · 04-06-2006, 05:01 PM

There is NO story to the Haunted Mansion. There were early story teatments that the attraction went through, but eventually the Imagineers settled and a bunch of random experiences as Walt had preferred. Some ideas from some of the early story treatments are still evident but none of them are strong enough or presented in ways to create any sort of storyline.
The new additions/enhancements that are coming to the Mansion are going to change that though and a new backstory with the bride will become evident.

Pirates has a story. This is the one I know- not sure if its the official one, but its the one I've heard many times everywhere: You see the pirates as skeletons and all their loot in the tresure caves... Then you travel back in time (that's the story's purpose for the dark, long cave) and then you see the pirates and how they got all that loot (by sacking the town)

Devestator · 04-06-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterGracey

There is NO story to the Haunted Mansion. There were early story Pirates has a story. This is the one I know- not sure if its the official one, but its the one I've heard many times everywhere: You see the pirates as skeletons and all their loot in the tresure caves... Then you travel back in time (that's the story's purpose for the dark, long cave) and then you see the pirates and how they got all that loot (by sacking the town)

Basically what i said, only he actually took the time to type it out.

04-06-2006, 12:45 PM	#1
fjhuerta Donald's #1 Fan Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 168	Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? Hi all! All this talk about refurbishments to what are, arguably, the most beloved Disneyland attractions ever got me thinking... and reading. The Haunted Mansion's backstory apparently has something to do with a bride who killed his husband... or a ghost who killed them both... or something. BUT - had I not read about it, I'd have basically said "Oh, the HM? It's just a haunted house, it has no story". I never thought there was a plot, other than "trying to find a way out!". I never fully understood the Pirates of the Caribbean story, either. I suppose it's someone reminscing of old pirates, and the scenes are sort of little stories to themselves, ending, of course, with the Pirates being locked up. Am I wrong here, too? The reason I ask is simple - I'm surprised that Disneyland is a land that tells all sort of stories - yet its two best attractions don't have very strong plots...

04-06-2006, 02:26 PM	#2
Devestator Big haunted mansion fan! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Too far from disneyworld Posts: 22	Re: Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? Not really a story on Haunted Mansion, but the pirates story (for Disney Land) is that you see the pirates attack the town, (eventually, they become the skeletons in the beginning) and get drunk, and all die (don't you love these happy disney things?

04-06-2006, 03:19 PM	#5
Hilsbro The Useless Prince Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 24.3 miles North of Disneyland :) Posts: 10,198 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? lollll....i feel sorry for the bride... __________________

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thejoshualee white and nerdy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I wanna bowl with the gangsters... Posts: 3,440	Re: Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? her chest wasn't always flat ya know... the effects of rotting in the ground can be murder on your figure. Plus if her chest was too big you wouldn't be able to see that cool flashing mickey head in there. __________________ St. Elizabeth, Patron Saint of Themed parks. Protect us from break downs, long lines, and used gum. Amen. "Dance like it hurts, love like you need money, and work when people are watching" - Dogbert

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04-06-2006, 03:55 PM	#9
Ghostbuster626 Minion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,295	Re: Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? There will be soon....

04-06-2006, 04:28 PM	#12
fjhuerta Donald's #1 Fan Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 168	Re: Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? How appropiate... the theme is the Pirates of the Caribbean, and there's a threadjack in progress!!!

04-06-2006, 05:01 PM	#14
MasterGracey Dateline Disneylander and MiceAge Columnist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bakersfield, California Posts: 7,560	Re: Is there a real story behind the Pirates of the Caribbean and the HM? There is NO story to the Haunted Mansion. There were early story teatments that the attraction went through, but eventually the Imagineers settled and a bunch of random experiences as Walt had preferred. Some ideas from some of the early story treatments are still evident but none of them are strong enough or presented in ways to create any sort of storyline. The new additions/enhancements that are coming to the Mansion are going to change that though and a new backstory with the bride will become evident. Pirates has a story. This is the one I know- not sure if its the official one, but its the one I've heard many times everywhere: You see the pirates as skeletons and all their loot in the tresure caves... Then you travel back in time (that's the story's purpose for the dark, long cave) and then you see the pirates and how they got all that loot (by sacking the town) __________________ Photos, news, and commentary every week from Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom! \| \| \|

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