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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Guests are walking onto private property, and they have to follow whatever rules Disneyland imposes.

    Personally, I think placing more restrictions on the strollers that people bring onto the property is quite logical. Just think of the amount of space that the gigantic strollers collectively occupy in the walkways and parking areas right now. And, with the number of reports of collisions and injuries, it may make sense for Disney to take control of the situation and add some rubber baby buggy bumpers of some sort.

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    When you call "Disneyland" or "Disney World," you are in fact getting a front-line CM. And this time, it's a front-line CM who doesn't work in the department in question. If you take a hypothetical situation that a department plans a change, the department management would know about it, and might leak it to the departmental CMs, but City Hall and the people answering the phones wouldn't know. There is nothing monolithic about the knowledge set of the people answering phones, even if they put you on hold to ask around.

    I'm not saying that's what's happening here. I'm pointing out that it's possible. And I fully agree one should distrust front-line CMs about future rides and the stuff that WDI decides.... but one might want to listen when they talk about POLICIES in their own departments.

    All that said, I suspect this all started with murmurings from management that were interpreted by a CM to mean a definite policy change, when it might have been more like an observation about guest habits. What the phone-answerers said about outside food being welcomed has the ring of truth. I suspect that *is* the stated policy now, and people like me have been assuming the older policy of no-outside-food was still true. And I wouldn't be surprised if management is thinking about revisiting that policy.

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the pa

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinYee
    When you call "Disneyland" or "Disney World," you are in fact getting a front-line CM. And this time, it's a front-line CM who doesn't work in the department in question. If you take a hypothetical situation that a department plans a change, the department management would know about it, and might leak it to the departmental CMs, but City Hall and the people answering the phones wouldn't know. There is nothing monolithic about the knowledge set of the people answering phones, even if they put you on hold to ask around.

    I'm not saying that's what's happening here. I'm pointing out that it's possible. And I fully agree one should distrust front-line CMs about future rides and the stuff that WDI decides.... but one might want to listen when they talk about POLICIES in their own departments.

    All that said, I suspect this all started with murmurings from management that were interpreted by a CM to mean a definite policy change, when it might have been more like an observation about guest habits. What the phone-answerers said about outside food being welcomed has the ring of truth. I suspect that *is* the stated policy now, and people like me have been assuming the older policy of no-outside-food was still true. And I wouldn't be surprised if management is thinking about revisiting that policy.

    If you called City Hall the DAY before they changed the Special Assistance Pass policy, you would have heard there were no plans to change it.
    heh... hence this thing I added.
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    So, again, another opinion from another front line CM.
    I don't personally anticipate any changes.
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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Uniformly, the guests that are having the least amount of fun at Disneyland are the harried mothers pushing those behemoths all day long. I always used to wonder who in his or her right mind would willingly bring such gigantic things with them. An umbrella-style stroller is quite inexpensive, and most of the people using that type seem to find it suitable.

    I've even seen double-wide strollers in the umbrella-style, and the people pushing them seem so much more calm and serene. So, if a single parent has more than two stroller-aged children, then he or she should probably be visiting Disneyland with another adult.

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    I would disagree with a no stroller policy, unless the strollers were defined. I mean an umbrella stroller is much smaller than the ones they rent and much easier to get around in. As for the no outside food and bevarages, I can agree with. I can't bring in outside food and bevarages to the movies or a baseball game, I wouldn't expect to bring it to Disney.
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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    I have taken a stroller for the last 8 years. Finally in January I got to give it up!!! But, I then realized that I had nothing to pack my jackets, snacks, camera, etc. in. I think that most people do use strollers just to haul stuff in.

    But, I would never deny anyone the use of them!!! You get a tired or cranky little one and they make the park miserable for everyone around them. It's just easier to push them and let them take naps or rest their feet when they need to.

    And, if they ever did restrict outside food, they'd have to drop their prices on food - okay, they don't have to, but you think they might because now, their volume is going to go up??

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beatle_johnny
    I was fortunate enough to be in Disneyland this past week. During a park hop from DCA to DL, I thought I would quickly run to Mcdonalds and get a couple milk shakes.

    Each day we had saved some money by purchasing a few items on their 1.00 menu and brought them into the park and ate them cold but we always put the items in our camera bag. We never brought in McDonalds Bags or were obvious about it.

    In fact, each day we brought our own stroller, 6 bottles of water from Costco and some fruit bars and oatmeal bars. Nothing huge but snacks.

    On this day, my wife kept the camera bag and as I went through the Yellow Security Tent, it struck me that I would not be able to hide anything. So I asked the CM at security and she said I would be escorted (YES... ESCORTED) to their PICNIC area where I could eat before entering the park.

    I then went back to my wife and as we entered DL, I asked the entrance CM about that and he said that, today, as long as we were not bringing in too much, they turn the other way, but no outside advertising such as a fast food bag or drink tray with cups.

    Then he went on to say that next Spring, there is a plan to expand the picnic area and force all people to consume their outside food before entering the park.

    I can understand this, but then he said that the policy will also include all Water bottles. Guests will have to use the fountains or purchase water. Now as I simply will not use a public water fountain and drink unfiltered water.... this is HUGE!!!! 6 bottles a day at 2.75 a "pop" is 16.50 a day or 82.50 over a 5 day park hopper visit!!!

    This is insane. Food, Ok.... but water is a basic human need... I guess so is food but not as desperate on a hot day while standing in line.

    Outside baby strollers will also be parked outside in this new picnic area unless the baby is sleeping or an infant. Then you will have to pay daily for a rental. (THIS LAST POINT SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CONJECTURE AND OPINION ON THE CM'S POINT)

    Anyways... we must stop this!!!
    Get yourself one of these babies and enjoy the benefits!!! No as for the water, they cannot demand that you leave or consume the water outside the parks unless you are carrying more than 12 ounces. Most public venues such as stadiums, parks, and some stores request that you consume larger quantities prior to entering.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchYourHeadNStep
    Get yourself one of these babies and enjoy the benefits!!! No as for the water, they cannot demand that you leave or consume the water outside the parks unless you are carrying more than 12 ounces. Most public venues such as stadiums, parks, and some stores request that you consume larger quantities prior to entering.





    11. Disneyland® Resort offer is subject to availability while supplies last. Stroller availability varies based on theme park attendance and other factors. Limit two free strollers per cardmember per day. Available only at the Main Entrance Stroller Rental Locations in Disneyland® or Disney's California Adventure® Theme Parks.
    I'm so taking advantage of that when I get there in 12 days!!! (I love the free pic in DCA) - I may even rent a stroller and try to run down micechatters!!! Oh yeah, and I'll be packing a cooler and McDonald's bags!!!!!

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    I've got to agree with Pragmatic & Soulq on this one, about the strollers. My aunt has TRIPLETS. We went to Disneyland twice when they were about 2-2.5yrs old. She didn't bring along those big behemoth strollers that litter the park, she brought 3 small umbrella stollers and the kids were fine! My aunt, the babysitter, and myself were fine pushing those types of strollers around. I think the double-wide strollers are the ones that create the problem. I don't understand why parents don't by the other types of double strollers if it's only one adult with multiple children. If parents want to bring big ol' strollers to store their crap in, get a locker. That's what they're for. Expensive maybe, but at least they let you get in it multiple times throughtout the day. But again...IMO.

    And as for the food, I'm sure they're talking about the big meal type things and/or fastfood. I highly doubt they'll risk diabetics and others who need to have snacks with them during the whole day. And they can't prohibit outside drinks either. What about the people who buy drinks in Downtown Disney? I'd be one pissed off guest if I spent $5 for a Jamba Juice (not that I'd buy one there, too expensive) and was told I couldn't get into Disneyland unless I threw my drink away.

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the pa

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulquarian
    I've always felt that strollers shouldn't be brought in and that Disney should only allow X amount of strollers based on how many guests are in attendance. They should charge a premium to rent them too... Disneyland is just too small for people to have such large strollers.

    I worked at a children's day camp for two years and for one summer I worked with little 5 year olds. I had at least 6 of them on trips to Knott's and Disneyland. I didn't need a stroller then so complaining about two kids is not going to fly with me.

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    While I think what you're saying is very true, you have to consider there are moms in this world who have more than one special needs child. I have two such wonderful children and without my double (front/back) stroller, I would not be able to visit their favorite place on earth. So *if* this policy changed, it would be a very sad day at my home. My boys love their weekly trips to DL, it's their treat for logging more than 40+ hours a week of therapy each! In addition, the snack thing, they have a special diet too, go figure.

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Actually, I'd support the no outside food rule in respect to meals. However, I understand the need for a snack or two, especially for those with dietary needs.

    But, I think bringing in your own full meals, especially those who are APs, is disrespectful. My parents didn't even bring snacks in when I was a kid. (And, it's irrelevant, but my family was upper lower-class when growing up, so we didn't have a ton of money, and couldn't even afford to stay in a motel on most visits. So, I won't buy in to the "must have been nice to have been rich" comments. )

    The only time I've brought in a meal, I've used the picnic area as asked.

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Uh, do any of you people have small kids? I have 2 small kids and often visit DL without any other adult and I have tried before and it is pretty much impossible to push 2 single strollers at the same time.

    Also, those umbrella strollers are only meant for short people. I'm 5'8" so not overly tall, and I have to hunch down to push our umbrella stroller. It hurts my back and makes me very cranky. In fact, when we went to WDW in April, I brought the umbrella stroller hoping to save a few bucks and had to chuck it after a day! I ended up spending $16 a day for a double stroller and it was soooo worth it. And those umbrella strollers hold very little.

    (BTW, I traveled across the country alone with the 2 kids for 3 weeks visiting 7 different cities by airplane and car and brought my big huge stroller. Travelling by airplane is a poor excuse to not bring your big stroller IMO.)

    Unfortunately, DLR does not offer double strollers. This didn't bother me until last year when I finally gave ours away. The only time I ever used it was at DLR and I loved that it was huge. You could pack so much stuff into it, including extra sweaters, purse, camera bag, toys for kids, things you brought, extra water bottles, etc.

    To the poster who said he brought a bunch of 5 year olds to DL or Knotts, I bet you weren't there with them all day from early morning to late night.

    Try carrying a 50 pound kid around. Now trying carrying 2. Now try carrying 2 kids and all the stuff you bought, plus your purse, sweaters, water bottles, camera, etc. NOT gonna happen!!

    OK, I'm off my soapbox now. The whole idea of DLR not letting you bring in your own stroller is ludicrous! And WDW allows the big huge strollers (not wagons). I saw a zillion of them!

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    As a diabetic myself, I can tell you that they will not enforce this rule. In fact, last fall and New Year's Day when I went to DL (my first trips as a diabetic) security did not even raise an eyebrow to my Zone Perfect bars and a bottle of water. I know that some could argue that you could buy water and snacks in the park, but the fact of the matter is, you never know when you may need to eat or drink and standing in really long lines can keep you from getting to food or water immediately. So I need to have something handy in my bag for just such an occasion.

    I do agree that large quantities or entire meals should not be brought into the park.

    In terms of strollers, it is hard for me to comment since I do not have children, but when I was a child my mom never took my brother or I to the parks in a stroller. Granted, we were pretty independent but also obedient children and this may not work for some parents. Last fall my friend brought her three-year-old in without a stroller and he did fine. When I have children I will try and do the same. Who knows if it will work though. It just seems easier to me than having to deal with a stroller. But what do I know?

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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Having no children and no special medical needs I have never brought food into the park. I usually only carry my purse with me and I don't like to be bogged down with a lot to carry. Besides, since it's a scientific fact that food at Disneyland has no calories, it gives me a good excuse to buy a churro or one of those pretzels stuffed with cream cheese!
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    Re: WARNING --- 2007, SPRING, No outside food, strollers or WATER brought into the park!

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinYee
    I'm with cstephens on this one. The Disney theme parks were not meant to be versions of the neighborhood park where you could picnic at will. They are meant to be day-long trips and something special, not routine.

    It helps to remember also that Disneyland is a business. Do stadiums let you in with a personal cooler full of beer?
    BINGO! That sums it all up perfectly.

    It would be entirely reasonable for a private business to monitor and restrict the types of food and equipment a customer brings in and uses on their private property.

    Disneyland can certainly ban food, drinks, or large pieces of equipment (huge SUV strollers) from being brought into the Park.

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