How is dressing like a Pirate to DL not a costume?

[JesterMn]

So I haven't made it to Disney personally lately, but I keep seeing pics of guests (adults) dressed up in the spirit of POTC inside the park. My question is, how is this not a costume? I was surprised Disney officials/security allowed them inside the park. Aren't adults prohibited from wearing a "costume" inside the park? Since when did wearing a pirate outfit become the norm?

If wearing a pirate outfit is okay, and wearing goth clothing for Bat's day is okay, why is wearing a Star Wars costume not? Does this mean my friends can wear their Renaissance Faire outfits to the park on any given day?

On a more specific note, if you were Disney security, where exactly do you draw the line for adult attire being, or not being, a costume?

[General You]

Pirates and Goths are cool - Star Wars geeks? not so much

[xfkirsten]

I was kinda wondering about that myself. I was there yesterday, and I saw a number of adults that were definitely in costume. Now, I think that's cool, more power to them, but I really am curious why they were allowed into the park as it's against the rules and they're usually strict on that.

[barfownz]

They were enthusiastic about the new movie/ride

[testtrack321]

They were enthusiastic about the new movie/ride

True, but I can be enthusiastic about Mickey, but I can't dress up like him....

[Twist_of_Fate]

When you say you weren't allowed in in a Star Wars costume, what did you try to come in as?
Like, what about that guy that got in the park dressed as Obi Wan?

EDIT: Can I see some of these pictures in question?

And does Disney have a definition of costume?

[aaronpaulcustoms]

I would have to agree, it was a big event and i gues they just felt like they should overlook the rule for the day....i wonder if that would be the case if they revamped Star Tours (IMO it needs one too) haha

[JesterMn]

I didn't personally try to come dressed as any Star Wars character, but I did hear about the situation you mention, and that's what I was thinking of as an example.

I also remember from last year's Bat's Day, a MiceChat member tried to dress as a "goth" Minnie Mouse. As I understood the situation, she was not allowed inside unless she changed her shoes (which were bright, shiny yellow tennis shoes with thick red laces). Her Minnie Dress and Minnie Ears did not seem to cause any problem. Most of us there we like, "Huh?" Seemed like a fairly arbitrary decision that her shoes made it a costume. (If any other MC'r can clarify/recount the situation, feel free to post...)

So I ask again, what determines a costume (as per Disney standards)? I have a cool Victorian Gentleman's outfit that would look great on Main Street.

[SCUBAbe]

I saw all the adults in pirate costumes....ummm...I didn't have kind thouhts about it, but to each their own...

[Mac Daddy]

Pirates and Goths are cool - Star Wars geeks? not so much

Isn't it the whole issue of wearing a mask? You have to be identifiable by cameras and security in order to be admitted to the parks. If you wear a bandana, have a large earing and wear colorful baggy clothing, maybe that's just how you dress, or maybe you want to look like a pirate. Who's to say?

If, however, you want to be an imperial storm trooper, you need to lose the helmet thing or you don't go in.

That is my completely unprofessional guess.

Anyone want to second the motion?

[General You]

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So I ask again, what determines a costume (as per Disney standards)? I have a cool Victorian Gentleman's outfit that would look great on Main Street.

Ah, but you know the moment they stated their "standard" - we'd all be seeing just how close to the line we could get before crossing it.

Disney I'm sure preferes "at the disgression of the front gate CM" - give them flexibility and probably makes us back away from our more extravagent ideas

[mrcoaster]

Probably the big event helped make the decision to allow pirates into the park an easy one.

[CutebutClueless]

pirate-ism is a way of life, disney understands that! dressing up like star wars characters is just wierd and disney being the helpful company that they are, are just trying to help star wars geeks adapt to normal life with showers and deoderant and socks with sandals...its in their best interest really.

[k_peek_2000]

these days pirates are so popular. I could walk out side dressed like a pirate and people will be like. Eh that kid is wierd. But 4 years ago. If I would do it..... LOOK AT THAT FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JesterMn]

Ah, but you know the moment they stated their "standard" - we'd all be seeing just how close to the line we could get before crossing it.

True... but at the same time, some sort of standard must exist. IMO, judging by some of the pirate costumes I've seen Disney allow into the park, they're already "crossing" the standards a little bit--promo or no. Some guests are really done up!

(Don't get me wrong, I personally think it's great fun to see guests dressed up. This is not a "bashing people dressed as pirates" post.)

It really seems to open the door to the Ren Faire outfits to start appearing in the park... I mean, how can they be denied after what Disney has already allowed? And after Ren Faire... well, then what next? Ninjas?

And I don't think "masks" have anything to do with it. Neither Minnie nor Obi Wan costumes wear masks, and they have been denied by the park.