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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyDude2006 View Post
    Well, I don't think the Grand Canyon looks like that anymore...Looks like it was from the 50's
    I was there over New Year's. It looks a lot like that still. In fact, when we went to the Yavapai Overlook, we finally understood what Disney was conveying with the diorama view.

    The only thing dated about the attraction is the realism of the technology.
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by steamboatpete View Post
    The only thing dated about the attraction is the realism of the technology.
    Or perhaps more accurately...the total lack thereof.

    Because I'm not sure I'd even call it "technology."

    More like classic mural art, mixed with classic prop staging, mixed with the craft of taxidermy.

    To me...the Grand Canyon Diorama will never become dated precisely because it does not rely on any sort of technology (unless you want to call light bulbs, technology ). It's simply an example of a classic static diorama. Add a dash of the Grand Canyon Suite music on the train speakers...and it is what it is. Simple, entertaining, and interesting. Perhaps especially to those that have never had the pleasure of viewing the real thing.

    It's more simple display art, than technology.

    IMHO.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    For nostalgia's sake keep them, I can also think of other area's I'd like to see developed first (Festival of Fools, putting a show back in Aladdins Oasis/Tahitan Area), Redd's into an attraction, Starcade, Heck most of Tommorowland, more put into DCA....

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opus1guy View Post
    <snip>... it is what it is. Simple, entertaining, and interesting. Perhaps especially to those that have never had the pleasure of viewing the real thing.

    It's more simple display art, than technology.

    IMHO.
    Fixed that for me, There's a reason I never went on the train before Jan 2006.

    I would not object if they changed that display at all, but I also won't complain if they leave it exactly the same. For me it's just something to look at while on the train.
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    I don't like the animals in it. They look to real...like they took real animals and had them stuffed. It makes me sad every time I see them.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Well What about creating two new Tomarrowland Dark Rides in those spots=== Maybe a Tron Ride or something more scientific like a shuttle thing similar to soaring over California, It woul dbe Soaring through the Universe.

    In that light, I don;t need to see the Grand Canyon any more!

    So to be clear ---- The Glass windows separating the tracks and the dinosaurs would all be replaced with LCD screens with interactive speaking characters... they could even show a presentation from the old Grand Canyon if it was truely interactive and soemone casked for it!

    But in the space who two scenes take up ---- thats a gold mine of space. GOLDMINE..... 2 new dark or scientific rides in there!

    Quick someone get this idea to those who can make this happen!!!

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Heresy!!
    Like the good book say's...
    Thou shalt not change the Grand Canyon diorama or the Primevil World exhibit.
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAbe View Post
    I don't like the animals in it. They look to real...like they took real animals and had them stuffed. It makes me sad every time I see them.
    Well...that's because they are real stuffed/taxidermy'd animals.

    But don't worry. Walt didn't "order" them killed and stuffed. They were aquired from already long-existing collections and museums.

    Really...if you go to any Natural History Museum today...you've going to see many examples of real animals that are stuffed.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opus1guy View Post
    Well...that's because they are real stuffed/taxidermy'd animals.

    But don't worry. Walt didn't "order" them killed and stuffed. They were aquired from already long-existing collections and museums.

    Really...if you go to any Natural History Museum today...you've going to see many examples of real animals that are stuffed.
    I know, but it still makes me sad. I grew up around hunting and taxidermy. I've seen all the stages of the process. (the skull mount id=s the most disgusting0 It just saddens me...

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    If you want to see exhibits very similar to the Grand Canyon Diroama, you need to go no further than the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County. The animal displays there are very similar to the Grand Canyon Diorama, except they are a lot smaller.

    I like the op's idea of maybe putting fibre optic stars in there. That would be nice. But adding Indians and such would be a little too much. If there are going to be any changes I don't think it should be too much...

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    I know! Redo it with pirates.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    If you want to see exhibits very similar to the Grand Canyon Diroama, you need to go no further than the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County. The animal displays there are very similar to the Grand Canyon Diorama, except they are a lot smaller.

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    I've never been to the natural History museum in LA, but i have been to the one in NY...

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAbe View Post
    I've never been to the natural History museum in LA, but i have been to the one in NY...
    It is very nice. It is the third largest in the US, behind New York and Chicago. If you remember the scene in Spiderman where Peter Parker gets bitten by the spider, that scene was filmed in this museum.

    A lot of it is closed off to the public right now, because they are restoring the museum back to how it was in 1913 when it was built and retrofitting it as well. (This is the part where the Spiderman scene was filmed). But I was there about a month ago and there is still a lot to see.

    Besides all the natural history stuff, one item of interest to all of us micechatters is in the California History portion of the museum. On permanent display there is Walt Disney's animation desk where he drew Steamboat Willie! It is worth a trip if only just to see this!

    Anyway...Sorry for going off topic. But just thought I would let you know...

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Let's just get rid of something else that educates us about the past!
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    cause it's so educational I'm not sorry, but I'm didn't learn a damn thing from either display. And wasn't it walt who didn't want Disneyand to not change? (yeah yeah, I'm paraphrasing)
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