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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    So you're saying you want to kill everything Walt wanted huh.

    how cruel. =P


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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    I think they should update the AA and music in both the Grand Canyon scenes. i also like the idea of udsing them to make two new rides in that area. Tomorrowland could really use a new or orginal ride.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opus1guy View Post


    Trust me...the Grand Canyon hasn't changed appearance in the last 500 years...let alone the last 50.
    My guess is that the Primeval World hasn't changed that much in the last 50 years either although I wish those dinosaurs could produce some more fossil fuel and maybe bring the cost of gasoline down a bit.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle Skipper View Post
    i also like the idea of udsing them to make two new rides in that area. Tomorrowland could really use a new or orginal ride.
    Impossible. Then thered be no place for CM's and equipment to travel. There are ALOT of things between the Diarama and the back of Space Mountain.


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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    The "Grand Canyon" diorama really doesn't make much sense, anymore. When the Disneyland Railroad was presented by Santa Fe, the tableau made an appropriate conclusion to the Grand Circle Tour because of the Santa Fe's relationship to Arizona's great natural wonder. But, now, there really isn't a point to the display. It detracts from the overall effectiveness and coherence of the D.R.R.'s tour of The Magic Kingdom.

    I would like to see elements from the "Grand Canyon" diorama resynthesized in Frontierland, instead. For example, Ferde Grofe's "Grand Canyon Suite" would make appropriate area music there.
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronius View Post
    So you're saying you want to kill everything Walt wanted huh.

    how cruel. =P
    I had no idea walt wanted a stagnant park. I always thought he wanted it to change and grow...but maybe imagination isn't left in the world....

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAbe View Post
    I had no idea walt wanted a stagnant park. I always thought he wanted it to change and grow...but maybe imagination isn't left in the world....
    Yup which is why we still have Jungle Cruise!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronius View Post
    Yup which is why we still have Jungle Cruise!
    I guess, it's not my favorite ride, but young kids seem to like it.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    IMHO the grand canyon needs a loop.

    Seriously just update the AAs and add some new effects, especially to the matte paintings, and we're good.
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAbe View Post
    I guess, it's not my favorite ride, but young kids seem to like it.
    I'm just not a fan of Disney imagination at this point of time. If things like Pooh and Hista is something the Disney future consists of or repeats from other parks, give me the oldies yet original any time.

    I know you all will hate me for saying this, but I seriously think this Nemo sub FAD will die out in 2 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronius View Post
    So you're saying you want to kill everything Walt wanted huh.

    how cruel. =P
    If it's that boring yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronius View Post
    I know you all will hate me for saying this, but I seriously think this Nemo sub FAD will die out in 2 years.
    if it does they can always make nemo flounder and stick a mermaid in it...then they have a whole new ride...

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    I find the dioramas fun and nostalgic, even if they are "dated". It is one of the few "educational"-type attractions left. Everything with substance is getting replaced with pirates, princesses, some retarded corporate sponsored drivel and the like, at this point in time, I have no faith in DL designers to come up with anything more than some pop-culture marketing gimmick.
    So, the dioramas should stay.

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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiobarry View Post
    My guess is that the Primeval World hasn't changed that much in the last 50 years either
    I don't think that you were being serious, but...Actually, a lot of new information has been found out about dinosaurs. A new primeval world diorama could at least see the sauropods get an update in their backs (including neck and tail) being straightened out a bit, since people used to think that they dragged their tails, but paleontologists now think that they were somewthat stiff and used as a counterbalance to their long neck. I can't really remember any of the other dinosaurs well enough to think if they would need updates too.

    And as far as the whole Grand Canyon diorama goes, it would be nice to see a little more animatronic action, but the train goes by fast enough that the static state isn't really that noticable...Plus the music is fun.
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    Re: Is the Grand Canyon a little too dated?

    As already mentioned, putting anything besides a showscene back there would be logistically impossible. There is no hope of a ride ever being there and you would know this if you ever were backstage in that area.

    But the current diaramas definitely need to be replaced.

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