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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

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    So im sure that DCA's attendence will pick up once this show opens on the lagoon. What do you think???
    Sounds great! The Color TV jingle and title will be used as the intro piece and likely in the finale' while the rest of the major films act as the main entertainment. Good concept.

    Of course, when you say "DCA's attendance will pick up once this show opens on the lagoon", I think what we'll see in '09 is a very slight uptick in DCA day ticket sales from the slight increase from '08 when Midway Mania opened. This new ride and a water show won't have day-trippers and locals abandoning Disneyland in favor of DCA. Instead, this will just pull over the AP's and Park Hopper tourists who would have otherwise been camped out in the Hub for fireworks or in front of Pirates for Fantasmic!.

    I mention that because I hope Mr. Davison and his executive peers in TDA do not think this water show will help drive lucrative day ticket sales to DCA. Previous executives have fallen into that trap many times before, only to fail with such strategies as; Electrical Parade back from the dead, Rockin' The Bay, Fiesta Latina, Super Soap Weekends, X Games Trailer Trash Revue, Tower of Terror, Flik's Fun Fair, etc., etc.

    But DCA desperately needs night entertainment, and this will fit the bill quite nicely and stand up strongly against Fantasmic! and Remember fireworks.

    How is Mr. Davison addressing the issue of audience viewing areas? Or is he creating yet another artistic masterpiece that will jam walkways and create gridlock for 8 dollar an hour flashlight wavers to deal with? Does Mr. Davison feel any responsibility in creating a show that works for the venue he has been given?

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    >>and a wonderful new soundtrack to accompany the show, i think bruce healey will be working on the soundtrack. The show is mostly geared towards the films and not the TV show<<

    GASP!!!!! They absolutely MUST use the Sherman Bros "Wonderful World of Color" song from the TV series as the theme, it so damned good - - haunting, lovely, and chillingly nostalgic. And still beautiful for those who don't know or remember it.

    Those new songs are usually cloying and awful.

    PLEASE use the "Wonderful World of Color" song as the theme.... please!!!!!!

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    I never heard this before... but that clip just seems like a commercial for color televisions...

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by TP2000 View Post
    How is Mr. Davison addressing the issue of audience viewing areas? Or is he creating yet another artistic masterpiece that will jam walkways and create gridlock for 8 dollar an hour flashlight wavers to deal with? Does Mr. Davison feel any responsibility in creating a show that works for the venue he has been given?
    Hey, l lighten up on the guy.

    Don't blame him for being successful. Blame management for not dealing with these issues properly once they are made aware of them.
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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Remember though what the Mickey Mouse Club became...

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    I never heard this before... but that clip just seems like a commercial for color televisions...
    Because that's exactly what it was, a sales pitch to get America to buy a new Color Television set.

    It's a fun little jingle though, and I hope they use it in a big way in the new DCA show. Funny how how the "hip and edgy" park for the 21st century now trips over itself to shove every Disney/Pixar Character it can into the place, all set to the music of 1960's kitsch.

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    I don't know if people today can really understand how amazing the first color TV's were. My family could not afford a color TV for a long time. The first time I saw a color TV was just amazing.

    Since Walt was an artist, I cannot imagine him NOT enjoying color. Walt loved things that were beautiful. Color is such an important element to beauty. The other element was movement. Of course, Walt loved making drawings move.

    For the DCA presentation to work, there needs to be harmonious combinations of color and movement. The third element is music. When color, movement, and music are combined, and all are pleasing and harmonious, then the audience will be pleased with the new show.
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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by Circarama View Post
    Hey, l lighten up on the guy.

    Don't blame him for being successful. Blame management for not dealing with these issues properly once they are made aware of them.
    Like expanding the size of Disneyland's Central Plaza by 50%? What else can they do if Mr. Davison is going to make a show designed to be seen from a space only capable of comfortably holding 5,000 people, knowing full well Disneyland on a Saturday night will have 40,000 people in attendance?

    As for DCA, I was walking around Paradise Bay last week. With the exception of the small amphitheater across from Golden Dreams that can hold about 1,000 people, that entire piece of property is flat as a board. Flat, flat, flat. How do you get 10,000 people into that area when only the people standing directly along the railings will be able to see the water?

    It wasn't a problem for LuminAria because frankly there was never enough people in attendance for that to create much of a crowd. But if World of Color is going to be as big and lush and exciting as it needs to be to compete with Fantasmic! then how does Mr. Davison propose to allow his audience to see his work?

    I think Mr. Davison is more responsible for the audience sightline issue than Cal State Fullerton college kids waving flashlights for 8 bucks an hour are.

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Wasn't the area along the Rivers of America originally flat until after the success of Fantasmic! caused Disney to terrace the area? The premiere of Wonderful World of Color may coinside with the finish of placemaking around Paradise Pier. I could be wrong, but I believe the area around World Showcase Lagoon is slightly angled towards the lagoon, as it appears rather flat, but it is much larger.

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by TP2000 View Post
    Like expanding the size of Disneyland's Central Plaza by 50%? What else can they do if Mr. Davison is going to make a show designed to be seen from a space only capable of comfortably holding 5,000 people, knowing full well Disneyland on a Saturday night will have 40,000 people in attendance?


    I think Mr. Davison is more responsible for the audience sightline issue than Cal State Fullerton college kids waving flashlights for 8 bucks an hour are.
    Is it his fault for making something so wonderful, that people are willing to stop riding on attractions in order to see what he's created?

    The fact that he's good at what he does, doesn't have anything to do with the way the bean-counters in TDA handle the audience attendance predictions that they get before the new show premieres.

    Please place blame for an over-crowded Hub not on the creator of the fireworks show, but at the feet of the people responsible for providing an adequate viewing area... Disneyland management!
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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by TP2000 View Post
    It wasn't a problem for LuminAria because frankly there was never enough people in attendance for that to create much of a crowd. But if World of Color is going to be as big and lush and exciting as it needs to be to compete with Fantasmic! then how does Mr. Davison propose to allow his audience to see his work?
    Thank you! There are deeper issues regarding shows in DCA's lagoon, as TP2000 addresses here, than simply how lush and extravagant the production values will be.

    Unlike the terraced walkways surrounding RoA in DL, DCA's walkways are as flat as Kansas. Fewer guests will be able to view the show as a result. Unlike the wide walkways and enormous lagoon at Epcot, DCA's walkways and lagoon are too small to handle much of DL's 65K daily summer guests that TDA is hoping will spill over to DCA every night to watch the show. And given the disastrous use of pyrotechnics in LuminAria, I have serious doubts about any pyro use in the DCA lagoon that won't end up overwhelming at least one-third of the crowd with tons of toxic smoke.

    I really enjoy much of what Mr. Davison produces for the parks' entertainment. He's definitely at the top of his game. But this show is a recipe for disaster, simply based on location. The environment of DCA's lagoon just plain sucks for a Fantasmic-like show, and I feel the results will be much like what happened with LuminAria.
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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Sigh. Another example of short-sightedness during DCA's construction... They put in a big lagoon, and they knew that they wanted to one day have big lagoon shows a la Fantasmic! in the future, yet they didn't plan to put in terraced viewing like they did at the Rivers of America...

    The new show will likely be popular and will probably cause them to redo the walkways around the Paradise Pier lagoon.
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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Sigh. Another example of short-sightedness during DCA's construction... They put in a big lagoon, and they knew that they wanted to one day have big lagoon shows a la Fantasmic! in the future, yet they didn't plan to put in terraced viewing like they did at the Rivers of America...

    The new show will likely be popular and will probably cause them to redo the walkways around the Paradise Pier lagoon.
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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by Circarama View Post
    Please place blame for an over-crowded Hub not on the creator of the fireworks show, but at the feet of the people responsible for providing an adequate viewing area... Disneyland management!
    How would you double the size of the Disneyland Hub? After you tear out all the trees, remove the Plaza Gardens, the Astro Orbiter, Plaza Inn patio, and Ariel's Grotto, then what? Build a series of plexiglass terraces that you can see through from behind but that hold an additional 5,000 people?

    What else can "Disneyland management" do for the Hub? They've got armies of flashlight wavers that no one listens to, or worse, that get verbally and physically assaulted by angry and frenzied audiences packed in like sardines.

    Mr. Davison had to have known how big the Hub actually was when he designed the fireworks show. What else should Disneyland do to provide viewing for an additional 10,000 people in the Hub?

    And before anyone answers, realize this thread may be resurrected on Memorial Day 2009 when Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color makes its DCA debut and only the first row of people along the water actually saw it.

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    Re: Steve Davison's Wonderful World of Color

    Quote Originally Posted by TP2000 View Post
    What else can "Disneyland management" do for the Hub? They've got armies of flashlight wavers that no one listens to, or worse, that get verbally and physically assaulted by angry and frenzied audiences packed in like sardines.

    Mr. Davison had to have known how big the Hub actually was when he designed the fireworks show. What else should Disneyland do to provide viewing for an additional 10,000 people in the Hub?
    Let's take a close look at this shall we?

    Disneyland (aka Management) asks Steve Davidson (aka Creative Talent) to arrange a new fireworks show for the failing DCA.

    Do you think they said to him, "Make it good Steve, but not too good... we don't want too many people over here"?
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    Maybe they said, "We know that you're the creative arm of Disneyland, with no real knowledge or training in crowd control or site planning, but we still expect you to come up with a plan that will overcome all of the bad site planning that was done in the 1990's so that our guests will all be able to see your show."[\sarcasm]

    Do you actually believe that Steve Davidson (aka Creative Talent) has enough clout to tear out all of the concrete around Paradise Pier and rebuild it with a new terraced viewing area? Because that's what would need to be done to improve viewing for an as-of-yet unproven fireworks show. Of course he doesn't... he's a fireworks show designer.

    If this new fireworks show is as successful as Fantasmic!, then and only then, will Disney Management consider re-vamping the viewing area around Paradise Pier. This is what happened in New Orleans Square after Fantasmic turned out to be such a hit.
    And if they do rework the viewing area around Paradise Pier, then you can bet your bottom dollar that they are going to have a HUGE marketing campaign to get folks back into DCA to help pay for all of those construction improvements. But not until it is a proven success!
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