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  1. #16

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    Yeah... WDW beats DLR hands-down. But just comparing Magic Kingdoms...

    INSIDE-FACING DLR... Man, I hate the forward-facing cars in Orlando! Makes it feel like transportation, rather than an attraction unto itself. Plus, no Primeval World.

    NOS... If you're not going to build WRE, Orlando, you really should have built your own NOS, and since HM was in Liberty Square, you could have come up with a brand new, unique, kickin' Mardi Gras ride or SOMEthing. They had the space, they just didn't use it well enough.

    Splash... don't care either way about side-by-side seating. What I didn't like was that their Splash was a bit TOO bright. It felt like the rockwork wasn't complete in sections, and you were just seeing bare black wall between scenes. Maybe I was just there during a rolling refurb or something.

    TSI... didn't like the layout of their island. Like I was saying elsewhere, there's a bridge to the back part of the island, and if someone's coming from the other side, you can't cross. Or you have to throw up your elbow and rush it.

    Fantasyland... bad iasw. And what's with the Sad Clown??? No Storybookland, and no matter what some people think, that is a criticism not a compliment.

    Over all, even on my first visit way back in 88, I just felt like Ortlando got short changed, but at least they had Epcot Center. Of course, poor Horizons bit the big one, which pulled the heart out of Future World. But in its plus column, it is more spacious, and as a result, they've been able to keep more of the classics like Country Bears, the REAL Treehouse, and the PeopleMover. I go to that park more to see what should still be at Disneyland than for any other reason.
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    Wow. I actually did a picture thing of this on a web site for one of my classes last year. Disneyland won. I'll just make one point since many have said the others such as superior POTC and the original Tiki show at DLR.

    Fantasyland. What do people associate Disney with? Children! Where do kids normally want to go? Fantasyland. Why does WDW get 90 min waits for Peter Pan and Pooh? There's no where to go.

    Disneyland has:
    1. Peter Pan's Flight
    2. Snow White's Scary Adventures
    3. "it's a small world"
    4. The Mad Tea Party
    5. Dumbo
    6. King Arthur's Carousel
    7. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
    8. Pinocchio's Daring Journey
    9. Alice in Wonderland
    10. Storybookland
    11. Casey Jr.
    12. Matterhorn

    WDW has:
    1. Peter Pan's Flight
    2. Snow White's Scary Adventures
    3. "it's a small world"
    4. The Mad Tea Party
    5. Dumbo
    6. Cinderella's Carousel
    7. Philarmagic

    With the makeover of Fantasyland in the early 1980's to make everything more elaborate and 12-7 attractions Disneyland wins. Sure WDW might have more room, but what would you rather have: more room or more attractions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPigletFan
    Wow. I actually did a picture thing of this on a web site for one of my classes last year. Disneyland won. I'll just make one point since many have said the others such as superior POTC and the original Tiki show at DLR.

    Fantasyland. What do people associate Disney with? Children! Where do kids normally want to go? Fantasyland. Why does WDW get 90 min waits for Peter Pan and Pooh? There's no where to go.

    Disneyland has:
    1. Peter Pan's Flight
    2. Snow White's Scary Adventures
    3. "it's a small world"
    4. The Mad Tea Party
    5. Dumbo
    6. King Arthur's Carousel
    7. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
    8. Pinocchio's Daring Journey
    9. Alice in Wonderland
    10. Storybookland
    11. Casey Jr.
    12. Matterhorn

    WDW has:
    1. Peter Pan's Flight
    2. Snow White's Scary Adventures
    3. "it's a small world"
    4. The Mad Tea Party
    5. Dumbo
    6. Cinderella's Carousel
    7. Philarmagic

    With the makeover of Fantasyland in the early 1980's to make everything more elaborate and 12-7 attractions Disneyland wins. Sure WDW might have more room, but what would you rather have: more room or more attractions?
    That is what it is for me, too. WDW's Magic Kingdom may be bigger, but DL packs so much more into its smaller package. Even comparing the Tomorrowlands, assuming it is July 15th, we have:
    DL
    1. Space Mountain
    2. Buzz
    3. Innoventions
    4. Autopia
    5. Star Tours
    6. Astro Orbitor
    7. Honey, I Shrunk the Audience
    8. Monorail

    compared to WDW
    1. An inferior Space Mountain
    2. An inferior Buzz
    3. Indy Speedway that is inferior to Autopia
    4. A better Astro Orbitor, but that doesn't make up for 1-3
    5. A Stitch attraction that no one likes
    6. Carousel of Progress open seasonally
    7. Timekeeper open about 1 month of the year
    8. TTA

    For all of the bad publicity DL's Tomorrowland gets, I think w/ the new paint and new rides, come this summer, it will be superior to wdw's
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    We've been to both. DL is far more intimate and cozy feeling. PLUS it has the Matterhorn. My son was so disappointed to get to Florida and no big mountain. DL also has (IMHO) a better layout.
    On the Other hand...
    WDW has a pretty snazzy castle. It's what most people think of when they think "fairy tale castle" (thank you Ludwig, mad King of Bavaria). I also like how Fantasmic has moved from MK, put at MGM and given it's own lagoon with seating for 3 million people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPigletFan
    ...Why does WDW get 90 min waits for Peter Pan and Pooh? There's no where to go... Sure WDW might have more room, but what would you rather have: more room or more attractions?
    Yeah, I don't get it... WDW now has Pooh, but for some reason, they had to take out Toad to do it...??? Granted, the old Lagoon wasn't filled yet (and I still get mad thinking of it) but still, look at this picture.



    They couldn't come up with a way to get Alice in there? Maybe Pinocchio? And what is that pretty little nothing between Toon Town Fair and Space Mountain?



    I know Little Indy is somewhere there, but I seem to recall making the long walk from the train station thinking... why? This is an awful long walk with awful little to see or do.

    And say what you will about Philharmagic, there are a lot of people, myself included, who will only sit through so many shows before they burn out.

    With all that space, you'd think they would do more with it, but instead it just feels... bloated.

    Oh, and Momzilla... yes, I do have to give them thumbs up for putting Fantasmic in a different park. Maybe if they do the Good vs. Evil park as a third (or fourth) gate, they can recreate Fantasmic there, integrated into the park the way ours is, but in a way that will give people ample room to cir***navigate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrateslife4me84
    For all of the bad publicity DL's Tomorrowland gets, I think w/ the new paint and new rides, come this summer, it will be superior to wdw's
    I don't know. Among us DL wonks, I think it's pretty hard to fight the appeal of a working Peoplemover with Rockets spinning on the roof of the building.

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    I agree that the PeopleMover should return, but I don't think its absense makes DL's Tomorrowland worse than WDWs.

    The Hollywood Hills Amphitheatre, where Fantasmic! is presented at MGM, certainly does not hold 3 million people haha...MGM sees maybe 9 million guests in a given year. The amphitheatre has room for maybe 20,000 people, including the standing room.
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    Disneyland has a magic that the Magic Kingdom does not. It hard for me to explain but I'm sure that others know what I'm talking about.
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    I've yet to visit WDW. However, I will be going the first week of June. As a person who has been to disneyland probably well over 300 times I'm anxious to see other aspects of Disney.

    I agree by looking at the rides in Fantasyland there isn't much to do for the young ones. Then again, Its been rumored, that Disneyland wasn't designed for kids. When you're that small and holding your parents hand whats fun about looking at peoples butts all day..haha.

    It will be weird to not see the Matterhorn and the Monorail in the park, but Disney knew ahead of time they were going to have more than just the Magic Kingdom; where as Disneyland didn't have all the land it has now 50 years ago. So I think it was more necessary to build, cram and stuff as much as you can into what there is.

    I don't really see myself going to WDW to compare which is best. Rather, I am going to absorb and experience a different kind of magic us west coasters aren't familar with.

    I just hope that before I leave this earth I will have gotten to see all the Disney parks around the globe.
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    maybe I missed it but WDW has "The Hall of Presidents"

    great attraction but I still like DL better-

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    Here is how I would rate them:

    Main Street: DL is better..it has a quaint and homey feel to it. MK's feels commercial.

    Fantasyland: Dl is far superior. Having Alice, Matterhorn, Casey Jr., better SW facade and attraction, Storybookland, Pinnichio and Mr. Toad The alpine village feeling is great. MK's Fantasyland is themed as well.

    Tomorrowland: MK is far superior. Better Space Mountain (as of now after July that may change.

    Frontierland: MK is better. Big thunder is better themed and the land is spacious..

    Adventureland: Edge to Dl. Indy is in Dl. Jungle Cruise about the same.

    Pirates is far superior in Dl as well as the Haunted Mansion. Spalsh Mountain is about the same....

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    Well, I guess I will weigh in on this one too...

    DL is older... And with age comes both wisdom and production value that you don't see anymore... What I mean by this... You have reminants of Walt's origninal ideals... You will never find another ride like the Materhorn, anywhere... Even the "Expedition: Mt. Everest" ride they are putting in WDW is NOT the same type of ride... The lay out with New Orleans Square is quite Unique to DL. The Monorail now is vertually now an interal ride of TL... It used to connect the hotels to the park, but this is no longer the case... There are reminants of rides that once were at Disneyland... The Skyway, the Motor Boats, the Peoplemover/Rocket Rods, Fantasyland Autopia station, Rainbow Cavern Mine train, the Carnation Plaza that used to feature Big Bands sits as an empty shell while ghosts of people tare up the dance floor like they still do for major holidays... Mr. Lincoln who once stood alone as a testament to American Optimism still remains but reprogrammed to become a historical encounter... the Carosel of Progress still is a Carosel, but has under gone two metamorphasis... And because DL required a creative use of space, some things add to the ambiance... like the Blue Bayou...

    MK is newer, and has a shinier feel... The Monorails at WDW are pratical not an exposition... You are constantly reminded that you are on reclaimed swamp land by the water which seems to surround you, and the vast areas where dranage is important... WDW also has a tribute to New England that DL does not have and in many ways I wish it did... For example the tin smith... There is more room to design and plan around, thus open space is important... Cinderella's Castle is huge compared to Sleeping Beauty's Castle... Mr Lincoln is joined by a host of aditional presidents... TL's open spaces make the land feel more epic...

    What gets me is the scale of the two parks... DL seems to be designed for children's perspective... Where as, WDW is built for an adult perspective... But I still get taken when I stand next to the Matterhorn at night and I look up to the peak... It seems much bigger than it really is... That is where the magic is for me...

    Hey I am bias... Disneyland with out a Matterhorn seems to me to be an Ice Cream Sunday without a Cherry to go on top... It tastes awful good, but that extra something special is not there....
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    Personally, MK's TL didn't do too much for me. All I seem to recall are a lot of concrete surfaces. I think that it was the part of MK that had the least appeal for me. I would say that once SM and Subs are back, that DL's TL wins.

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    Picking up an old thread, but, just had to say:

    (1) Fantasmic

    DL Fantasmic is so much better than WDW Fantasmic. The organic feel of it rising out of the ROA vs the obvious set-up in the MGM ampitheater. How cool is it that you can walk around Frontierland/NOS/Critter Country during the day, and have no idea what will happen that night? Then the light towers rise out of the ground.

    The show itself is so much better. The use of the Mark Twain and Columbia. The WDW version was akwardly cut, watered down, and made much more commercial (the one new video segment feels like a commercial for Buena Vista Home Video).

    (2) New Orleans Square

    NOS at DL and World Showcase at WDW are Disney's best concepts and execution of themed enviornments ever (at least in the US, IMO).

    So above are the new ideas I wanted to add, otherwise I'll just repeat that DL has much more detail, more density, just so many amazing things and so much history packed into such a tight space. Big deal if it gets crowded from time to time. Ever try to get in or out of the MK after Wishes or the first Spectro? It can get just as packed.

    True I grew up in Southern California so I feel nostalgia for DL. I live in Orlando now and like certain things about the MK, especially Tomorrowland, Spectro, and the castle lighting at night, but it all doesn't seem to add up the same way as DL does.

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    That is a strange question for me to answer... I like the one i am at the most. I wish that the castle in Disneyland was bigger... I wish that space mountain in Magic Kingdom had music.. but all in all, I can't say I like one better than the other.

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