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    Where's Zorro?

    Hi there, this is really a topic for all of the parks, but why isn't there more of a presence of Zorro in the parks? He's a really cool character! Frontierland needs more chracters as well.

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    The top ten answers:

    10. Zorro isn't "relevant" to today's audiences;

    9. Kids don't know who Zorro is;

    8. There's no synergy with the character;

    7. He's not a cartoon character;

    6. He brings to mind too many hotbutton immigration issues;

    5. The cast member who plays him can't be exptected to wear all black in the Summer heat;

    4. They're trying to see if they can get him into Fantasyland without anyone noticing or caring about the thematic violations;

    3. He's not a pirate;

    2. He represents a racial stereotype;

    And the NUMBER ONE reason that there is no Zorro:

    1. Frontierland's too small now to squeeze him in.

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    The top ten answers:

    10. Zorro isn't "relevant" to today's audiences;

    9. Kids don't know who Zorro is;

    8. There's no synergy with the character;

    7. He's not a cartoon character;

    6. He brings to mind too many hotbutton immigration issues;

    5. The cast member who plays him can't be exptected to wear all black in the Summer heat;

    4. They're trying to see if they can get him into Fantasyland without anyone noticing or caring about the thematic violations;

    3. He's not a pirate;

    2. He represents a racial stereotype;

    And the NUMBER ONE reason that there is no Zorro:

    1. Frontierland's too small now to squeeze him in.
    Actually, kids do know who Zorro is because there were two movies about him starring Antonio Banderas. I don't know enough about him personally to judge whether or not it is too racial. Also, if I recall correctly, the last two Zorro movies were not done by Disney. If they did bring in Zorro to the park, he would belong at DCA since it takes place in old California.

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    I thought that Disney no longer owned the rights to Zorro? That's why you don't see him in the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    Actually, kids do know who Zorro is because there were two movies about him starring Antonio Banderas. I don't know enough about him personally to judge whether or not it is too racial. Also, if I recall correctly, the last two Zorro movies were not done by Disney. If they did bring in Zorro to the park, he would belong at DCA since it takes place in old California.
    So, you find some credence in my other eight, very serious, reasons?

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    I read somewhere else on MiceChat that the reason they are not releasing the Zorro TV series that the studio did back in the 60s is that the actor (or the family of the actor) held some rights that they weren't going to let Mickey use.

    That being said, seems to me that the only way you'd see Zorro in the park or out on DVD from the vault is if the mouse got those rights. Then they could (and please!) release those on a Disney Treasures or wider release label. People would fall in love with the series again, and we might see something out in the park besides Rancho de Zacolo (where my family once got food poisoning on a trip to the park).
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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    An interesting blog article:

    http://gbgames.com/blog/?p=576

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Hey zorro is a bandit. Pirates are bandits therefore zorro must be a pirate.

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    Rumor has it there was a mixup at the cleaners where he had his outfit cleaned...something about too much starch added to it...

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    The top ten answers:

    10. Zorro isn't "relevant" to today's audiences;

    9. Kids don't know who Zorro is;

    8. There's no synergy with the character;

    7. He's not a cartoon character;

    6. He brings to mind too many hotbutton immigration issues;

    5. The cast member who plays him can't be exptected to wear all black in the Summer heat;

    4. They're trying to see if they can get him into Fantasyland without anyone noticing or caring about the thematic violations;

    3. He's not a pirate;

    2. He represents a racial stereotype;

    And the NUMBER ONE reason that there is no Zorro:

    1. Frontierland's too small now to squeeze him in.

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Quote Originally Posted by InspiredByWalt View Post
    People would fall in love with the series again, and we might see something out in the park besides Rancho de Zacolo (where my family once got food poisoning on a trip to the park).
    I have never heard of that restraunt. Is it still at the park?

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Zorro is at Universal Studios, I saw him on Tuesday on that western street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InspiredByWalt View Post
    I read somewhere else on MiceChat that the reason they are not releasing the Zorro TV series that the studio did back in the 60s is that the actor (or the family of the actor) held some rights that they weren't going to let Mickey use.

    That being said, seems to me that the only way you'd see Zorro in the park or out on DVD from the vault is if the mouse got those rights. Then they could (and please!) release those on a Disney Treasures or wider release label. People would fall in love with the series again, and we might see something out in the park besides Rancho de Zacolo (where my family once got food poisoning on a trip to the park).
    Disney still has the rights to the show because the Zorro T.V. series is available on DVD if you are in the Disney Movie Club or with the Disney Movie Rewards points on their website. The Zorro mystery continues...

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Zorro was (is?) certainly a colorful (metaphorically, not literally ) character, but I'm not convinced he is a good fit for Frontierland. I know many like this idea, but I suppose I see Frontierland as a celebration of the pioneering spirit of THIS country during its Western Expansion period, and hesistate to start mixing in other cultural influences, and histories.
    Does Zorro have a place in Frontierland if a "early California" theme was adopted? He fits, roughly, into the time period. The era is about right, but instead of seeing the Spanish-Mexican era of CA high-lighted, I would rather see post-Bear Flag Revolt history featured, including (but not necessarily limited to) the Gold Rush, and the BoomTowns that flourished then quickly died throughout this state.

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    Re: Where's Zorro?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    So, you find some credence in my other eight, very serious, reasons?
    Yeah, no problems there.

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