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    Talking Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Okay, so I was thinking about the limited space issue that Adventureland has. Everybody would love to have a new attraction (E-Ticket preferable) to invade Adventureland, but with the limited space it seems almost impossible.

    So here's the thing that I thought would be fun. In this thread explain what you would do to add a new attraction to Adventureland, but keep in mind that there are rules to this. They are as follows:

    1) Be realistic. Even in Disneyland when a new ride is conceived there is some "reality" put behind it.

    2) You have a budget of $150 million dollars (roughly the same as the subs overhaul as reported by Al).

    3) If you believe an attraction, shop, or restaurant should be removed for the new attraction explain why you believe this would be for the betterment of the land. Imagine you are trying to sell this idea to Disney themselves!

    4) Don't attack other posters for their ideas. If you disagree with an idea, explain why. Maybe you and the other poster(s) can find a middle ground or possibly incorporate both ideas to create a bigger one.

    5) The last and most important thing - HAVE FUN!

    Okay, that's it. Let's go have an adventure!

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Well if Indy caused less than 150 million, we have plenty of money. Adventureland has two widely loved attracions that Disney would have to be a complete and utter idiot to take out. Those two attractions are Indiana Jones Adventure and the Jungle Cruise. There are two possible area for a new E-Ticket

    1) Get rid of Aladdin's Oasis, this storytelling show does very little to bring people to the park, it only serves as a filler attraction. The only problem is, how much room would it clear out.

    2) Get rid of Tarzan's Treehouse. Now I know some people are attached to the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse, but I don't know of anyone attached to the Tarzan version. If this option is chosen the show building for the new E-Ticket can be squeezed in between the show buildings for Indiana Jones Adventure and Pirates of the Carribean. Or do people want the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse back? I would pick a new E-Ticket.

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    There are only three scenerios in Adventureland that I could see for putting in a new E ticket and all have severe limitations.

    1. The first is to remove Aladin's Oasis and have that be the start of a line that would lead to a new show building outside the park, similar to Indy. The problem here is that the path needed to get outside the berm would take up a space that currently is used for Jungle Cruise boat storage, Main Street vehicles storage, and is needed for access to main street.

    2. The second spot would require the removal of all shopping and dining locations in Adventureland and some of Fronteerland to house a ride. Not a lot of space here and would force several profitable locations and bathrooms to close

    3. The third option would be to close both the tiki room and the Oasis and create a new building in its place. Seeing as the tiki room was recently refurbished, it seems unlikely for this to happen.
    The only other space is the treehouse and it is not a large enough footprint to build anything significant.

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Oasis should go away to make room for an Enchanted Tiki Room restaurant (as originally planned), or perhaps a second story restaurant (ala Club 33) over an existing structure.

    Just dont mess with the Tiki Room or its preshow area.

    Why dont we concentrate on new attractions in the much more open space of Tomorrowland.

    When attractions were original

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by SciFi96 View Post
    Just dont mess with the Tiki Room or its preshow area.

    Why dont we concentrate on new attractions in the much more open space of Tomorrowland.

    Tiki Room is a classic, it is the first audio animatronic attraction and doing away with it would be a travesty. Speaking of the first audio animatronic attraction, does Disney make any AAs that aren't modeled after Johnny Depp anymore?

    About Tomorrowland, well there is even more space in Frontierland (Big Thunder Ranch) and Fantasyland (Motor Boat Cruise area, possibly Big Thunder Ranch). Those are areas where Disney should look at putting new (and more) rides in.

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Here is my idea. Perhaps get rid of Aladdin Oasis, and build an entrance to an outdoor ride based on the Jungle Book. Perhaps the shape of a car could be a log, and you drive around through the forest, even along the Jungle Cruise, behind the animals. And the ride could get bumpy, and see familiar faces from the movie along the way. A scene from the monkey scene from the movie would be neat to see. Just an idea, speed, bumpyness hopefully would add to the thrill of going through the jungle. Just an idea.

    *Bring back Swiss Family!!*


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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Cool idea for a thread! I like the spirit of this--work together to come up with a cool, realistic idea that could work, even though it probably will never happen as-is. I'll think on this, since that land is huge if you take the JC river into consideration...but I doubt anyone'll even suggest removing or significantly changing that. I know I won't. Space elsewhere is limited, so I'll start looking at the aerial photos and see if anything comes to me.


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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by xRybo View Post
    Here is my idea. Perhaps get rid of Aladdin Oasis, and build an entrance to an outdoor ride based on the Jungle Book. Perhaps the shape of a car could be a log, and you drive around through the forest, even along the Jungle Cruise, behind the animals. And the ride could get bumpy, and see familiar faces from the movie along the way. A scene from the monkey scene from the movie would be neat to see. Just an idea, speed, bumpyness hopefully would add to the thrill of going through the jungle. Just an idea.

    *Bring back Swiss Family!!*
    I like it. How would you fit this ride into the already small space? What would the queue line look like? How long would the ride be? Which scenes, aside from the monkey one you already mentioned, would be included?

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by JosephTNielsen View Post
    I like it. How would you fit this ride into the already small space? What would the queue line look like? How long would the ride be? Which scenes, aside from the monkey one you already mentioned, would be included?

    ...Joe...
    Definitely, "The Simple Bare Necessities" and the Elephant March, probably the fight witch the Tiger "Shir Khan" (sp?). You would enter just like the Aladdin Oasis, the cars would go along the Jungle Cruise, just on land. It's like a Jungle Cruise, except on the ground, so you wouldn't have to worry about changing that. Maybe a few altercations. I looked at an aerial view. You would have to push the train tracks out a bit, but I don't think that would be too big a job. Plus, using natural barriers, i.e. trees and stuff you could block the scenes/parts of the ride from the Jungle Cruise that might ruin the "experience" of the cruise. At the end you would end up entering the gates of the village Mowgli does at the end. This is all just off the top of my head, maybe I'll sit down sometime and really think it all out, but these are just me brainstorming, lol.


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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    I really don't think there's enough room for a new E-ticket, unless Indy or Jungle Cruise are removed (neither of which I would want).

    What I would LIKE to see done with the area: say goodbye to Aladdin, hello to a new sit-down restaraunt, similar to Tahitian Terrace, but with a wider variety of shows and menu...all different kinds of food from all over Asia.

    Pimp out the treehouse...or something. I don't know. I have this vision of some sort of trail where visitors physically walk through a lush jungle, and then somehow make it to the pimped out treehouse. Along the way, you'll encounter various forms of wildlife and exotic plants...and even see a beautiful waterfall along the way.

    WAIT, I got it! Okay, perhaps if the restaraunt thing didn't happen...guests could start their journey from where Aladdin's Oasis is now, and travel through Jungle Cruise, but with much more additional elements for this trail, until finally making it to the treehouse (sans Tarzan).

    So you're all probably wondering, "Just how are these guests going to go through all these show elements and not touch anything or hurt themselves, pineapple?" Hmm...fences, things too high or too far out of reach, etc. Build bridges, too.

    I don't know if there's enough space to configure this the way I'd like, or if it would just be physically possible. I think it is, but I'm not sure.

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    i am just throwing ideas out but what if you took out Aladdin' oasis and replaced it with a polynesian culture center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapplewhipaddict View Post
    I really don't think there's enough room for a new E-ticket, unless Indy or Jungle Cruise are removed (neither of which I would want).

    What I would LIKE to see done with the area: say goodbye to Aladdin, hello to a new sit-down restaraunt, similar to Tahitian Terrace, but with a wider variety of shows and menu...all different kinds of food from all over Asia.

    Pimp out the treehouse...or something. I don't know. I have this vision of some sort of trail where visitors physically walk through a lush jungle, and then somehow make it to the pimped out treehouse. Along the way, you'll encounter various forms of wildlife and exotic plants...and even see a beautiful waterfall along the way.

    WAIT, I got it! Okay, perhaps if the restaraunt thing didn't happen...guests could start their journey from where Aladdin's Oasis is now, and travel through Jungle Cruise, but with much more additional elements for this trail, until finally making it to the treehouse (sans Tarzan).

    So you're all probably wondering, "Just how are these guests going to go through all these show elements and not touch anything or hurt themselves, pineapple?" Hmm...fences, things too high or too far out of reach, etc. Build bridges, too.

    I don't know if there's enough space to configure this the way I'd like, or if it would just be physically possible. I think it is, but I'm not sure.
    "You must spread some blah blah blah around before blah blah blah"

    Man, I love this idea! A nice walkthru is a great idea! Plus, I love how you kept the treehouse intact and made it PART of the new attraction! Man, I wish Disney would do this idea right now! Can you imagine the interaction with the other rides and attractions? :sigh: Get a job at Disney Imagineering, Pineapple!

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Havn't you people ever heard of going "Under the berm"..... Pfft. Space Limitations my butt.

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    Re: Adventureland - The Limited Space Issue

    Submarines through the rivers of the world!

    Just kidding.

    I don't really think Adventureland needs another attraction. It's got plenty. What it needs is a bit wider street. I'd also like to see the treehouse be themed back to the Swiss Family Robinson and the Tahitian Terrace return, or at least a table-service restaurant in the Oasis space. Disneyland needs more good food and more sit down restaurant space.
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