View Poll Results: Would ya?

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  • Heck Yes!

    13 9.03%
  • Never!!!!!!!! It would Ruin The Magic!

    64 44.44%
  • I dont care, I only care about the parks!

    4 2.78%
  • I dont care I am a kid!

    3 2.08%
  • Maybe........Let me think it through

    1 0.69%
  • I would like another Disney themed Hotel, just not one with a casino in it!

    20 13.89%
  • NO NO NO NO NO, Disney needs to focus on their main problem right now, DCA!

    25 17.36%
  • I am fine with the Hotels they have now.

    7 4.86%
  • A casino in a hotel will just attract more guests, which means DL will be too crowded NO!

    1 0.69%
  • Other. (Explain)

    6 4.17%
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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    >>a casino would give the old folks somewhere to go while the rest of the family is in the parks. Grandma would rather be at the slots then sitting through the heat.<<

    “Almost everyone warned us that Disneyland would be a Hollywood spectacular – a spectacular failure. But they were thinking about an amusement park, and we believed in our idea – a family park where parents and children would have fun – together.” - - Walt Disney

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Seems decidedly non-Disney somehow.
    Not even the DisneyMagic or DisneyWonder have casinos (usually very popular attractions and big money makers on cruise ships). And considering all the casinos in SoCal (heck even with a "few minutes" of Disneyland) it's sure not like you can't go lose your money around here if you're so inclined.

    If I have a couple hundred extra bucks earmarked to just burn I'd go to Disneyana or Napa Rose... not a casino. But that's just me, YMMV
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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Almost everyone warned us that a Disney casino would be a Hollywood spectacular – a spectacular failure. But they were thinking about a conventional casino, and we believed in our idea – a family casino where parents and children would have fun – together.

    Conveying to others what a Disney casino might be is difficult because their only conception of a casino is so antithetical to all that Disney represents. But, just as Walt Disney explained to his wife when she questioned the reason he would want to build an amusement park, a Disney casino would not have to be "dirty".

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrimmGreen View Post
    out of curiosity , why do you associate gambling with high crime rate??
    Studies have shown crime is higher around casinos and areas where gambling is permitted than in other areas around the country. I did a long study on it.

    Carson may not be as bad as other areas of Nevada, but analysts have shown that crime rate is higher in cities where gambling is permitted. Add that on top of the idea that Disneyland is already highly populated with tourists. More tourists, who would go to Disneyland just to gamble, (because it is not allowed anywhere else around them) might bring in some "undesirable types" to have around children. (But Disney's already doing that with some of their castmembers, so I guess it doesn't really matter.) It's specifically why the City of Reno banned the building of a large Resort-Casino near a high school.
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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    >>But, just as Walt Disney explained to his wife when she questioned the reason he would want to build an amusement park, a Disney casino would not have to be "dirty".<<

    Except for the part where they are trying to con you out of your money! That's what gaming is by definition. And Walt spoke plainly on sharp practices, did he not?

    No one doubts Disney can put a fancy facade over the proceedings, but as we learned the hard way during the Eisnerist era, it's the subtext and message that matters. What would this offer us thematically?

    Walt's stories were always about how the heart and creativity and the spirit of youth were more important than money. How does gambling support that timeless idea?

    Cinderella took a gamble and won?

    I'm really surprised you are hanging your hat so firmly on this issue. Why?
    Last edited by merlinjones; 07-19-2007 at 08:38 PM.

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by merlinjones View Post
    >>But, just as Walt Disney explained to his wife when she questioned the reason he would want to build an amusement park, a Disney casino would not have to be "dirty".<<

    Except for the part where they are trying to con you out of your money! That's what gaming is by definition. And Walt spoke plainly on sharp practices, did he not?

    No one doubts Disney can put a fancy facade over the proceedings, but as we learned the hard way during the Eisnerist era, it's the subtext and message that matters. What would this offer us thematically?

    Walt's stories were always about how the heart and creativity and the spirit of youth were more important than money. How does gambling support that timeless idea?

    Cinderella took a gamble and won?

    I'm really surprised you are hanging your hat so firmly on this issue. Why?

    So is that a yes or no to the Casino? lol

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by merlinjones View Post
    >>a casino would give the old folks somewhere to go while the rest of the family is in the parks. Grandma would rather be at the slots then sitting through the heat.<<

    “Almost everyone warned us that Disneyland would be a Hollywood spectacular – a spectacular failure. But they were thinking about an amusement park, and we believed in our idea – a family park where parents and children would have fun – together.” - - Walt Disney
    Thanks for the predictable response.

    I'll go back to reality again where many old folks can't sit in the heat or aren't that mobile to really get around the park much. They typically sit during a family excursion and just watch. They have trouble getting up and down.. let alone climbing into the damn IASW boats.

    ... but they push a meannnnn slot button.
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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    I don't think a hotel with a casino in it at DLR would be received very well - I think it'd tarnish the image a bit. However, if Disney decided to build a themed hotel with a casino in it in Las Vegas, I think that might be well-received. Wouldn't have to necessarily be family-oriented (since Vegas is changing) and might not be a good idea to use the Disney brand name, but it might not be a bad business move overall. And WDI could have a field day with it.

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    I believe a Disney Hotel in Vegas is a really bad idea too. Disney already has an image of being all about money and a casino wouldn't do much to change that. Disney probably wouldn't put enough money in to the project for it to be able to compete with the other casinos. If Disney really did build a casino, the parks would probably receive very little attention and suffer from neglect.

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    I think it would be fun to have *Vegas* style casino in a new Disney themed hotel. I love Vegas and to have a little of that right in my own backyard would be different and unique.

    I'm sure if it ever happened Disney would do it right and control it the best way they could. Heck, the slot machines alone could all have a Disney style theme to it.

    I honestly don't ever see a casino going into a Disney hotel tho, so no one needs to be too concerned.

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by kirbilicious View Post
    I believe a Disney Hotel in Vegas is a really bad idea too. Disney already has an image of being all about money and a casino wouldn't do much to change that. Disney probably wouldn't put enough money in to the project for it to be able to compete with the other casinos. If Disney really did build a casino, the parks would probably receive very little attention and suffer from neglect.
    Why would they even have to be related? A Vegas operation could potentially be profitable enough that it would be able to fund its own overhead without negatively impacting any other park's budget.

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by TiaDalmaFan View Post
    Why would they even have to be related? A Vegas operation could potentially be profitable enough that it would be able to fund its own overhead without negatively impacting any other park's budget.
    Well, the intial funds to build the casino would need to come from somewhere. Not that they would necessarily take this from the parks but I could just see Disney pulling something to the extent of "Well we'd really really love to devote more money and attention to the parks - we really would - but we kinda have this multi-billion dollar casino we're building, so yeah..."

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyFunGuy View Post
    I think it would be fun to have *Vegas* style casino in a new Disney themed hotel. I love Vegas and to have a little of that right in my own backyard would be different and unique.

    I'm sure if it ever happened Disney would do it right and control it the best way they could. Heck, the slot machines alone could all have a Disney style theme to it.

    I honestly don't ever see a casino going into a Disney hotel tho, so no one needs to be too concerned.

    Thats exactly why I think this topic could go both ways......

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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    >>Thanks for the predictable response.<<

    Then address the unpredictable part:

    >>No one doubts Disney can put a fancy facade over the proceedings, but as we learned the hard way during the Eisnerist era, it's the subtext and message that matters. What would this offer us thematically?

    Walt's stories were always about how the heart and creativity and the spirit of youth were more important than money. How does gambling support that timeless idea?<<

    The Princess franchising has already altered the traditional Walt Disney concept of the characters from those that earn rewards through virtue, patience, hope, faith, caring, kindness (as reason to be rewarded with being a Princess) - - to vulgar demands of pampering and consumerism and getting-their-way to become a compelling and relevant modern (spoiled) "Princess."

    I see gambling as the next step in that unfortunate direction. Dreams and hopes and wishes will be marketed as aspects of sheer materialism instead of virtues. Why should Walt Disney entertainment go in such a direction - - it's one of the last bastians of thematic refreshment in pop culture, and then mostly by virute of the old films (and Pixar's).
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    Re: Would you like a new Disney Hotel with a casino in it at the DLR?

    Quote Originally Posted by merlinjones View Post
    >>But, just as Walt Disney explained to his wife when she questioned the reason he would want to build an amusement park, a Disney casino would not have to be "dirty".<<

    Except for the part where they are trying to con you out of your money! That's what gaming is by definition. And Walt spoke plainly on sharp practices, did he not?

    No one doubts Disney can put a fancy facade over the proceedings, but as we learned the hard way during the Eisnerist era, it's the subtext and message that matters. What would this offer us thematically?

    Walt's stories were always about how the heart and creativity and the spirit of youth were more important than money. How does gambling support that timeless idea?

    Cinderella took a gamble and won?

    I'm really surprised you are hanging your hat so firmly on this issue. Why?
    There's a reason I don't gamble, myself. I do consider the activity to be a vice that is neither rational nor healthy. But, I can envision a way to make an approximation of conventional gaming in which I might partake.

    When I was a little kid attending birthday parties at arcades, I was given tokens to spend, but I never was able to bring myself to do so because I thought that video games were a waste of money. So, invariably, I'd find myself in the Skeeball area because those games were not only intrinsically fun; I felt like I got a return on my investment by way of the tickets that could be redeemed for physical prizes.

    The prizes were never a reason to play the games, but having stakes did make playing those games more interesting.

    I feel the same way about the games and arcades at Disneyland and D.C.A.

    Adding the extra element of prizes to games of skill that are intrinsically enjoyable can be innocent and innocuous.

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