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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Okay, I'm sitting down to work on the index. As for the DEAD END sign, fwiw, it wasn't there when the HM first opened, but it was added pretty early on, like within the first month or two, I'd say. Before the end of 1969, anyway.

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    On another note involving the exit from our doombuggy - do you still hear the alternating man's/woman's voice instructing us how to exit from our vehicle? I always thought those two pretty much killed the ambiance of the experience just then with those matter of fact line readings and always wondered why it wasn't done by the Ghost Host himself like the WDW version...

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Up to page 109, post 1304. Should finish this thing tomorrow. The "Long-Forgotten" thread has sunk to page 6, as is inevitable, and of course it will continue to sink, now that it's no longer possible to post, but get this: it's added close to 2000 more views since it closed. I'm as surprised as anyone.

    My plan is to put the index into a separate post, then link it and write:

    "A subject index for this thread has been composed in order to make it more usable as a reference, now that it is archived: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxwhatever"

    Then maybe we can persuade the mods add that one brief note to the first post of The Thread, so it will have the link to the index right there at the beginning.

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HMfanatic View Post
    On another note involving the exit from our doombuggy - do you still hear the alternating man's/woman's voice instructing us how to exit from our vehicle? I always thought those two pretty much killed the ambiance of the experience just then with those matter of fact line readings and always wondered why it wasn't done by the Ghost Host himself like the WDW version...
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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    You know... What I never understood about them removing the exit sign, was why not just add it to the top of the up ramp before you turn to go outside? Because afterall, we still aren't in the living world. There are the ghostly singing voices, the ghostly laugh and Little Leota still before we actually exit. Made sense to me anyway....

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Okay, gang, it's done! Now, since I'm going to just put it into a post, it can be edited. So if anyone finds mistakes or has suggestions, let me know. I didn't bother indexing names of Imagineers, for the most part, or names of posters, since the search engine obviously works just fine for those. I tried to think in terms of someone actually looking up a topic for info, so I pretty much ignored "I like pop-ups"...."I don't, I think they're cheesy" types of conversation. I also ignored all the speculation about upcoming WDW changes, since no one will care anymore about that in another couple of months. I'm putting it into the next post, and will ask the mods to add a link to it at the beginning of the Thread.

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    This is a Subject Index for the "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion effect" thread (Long-forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect?). Hopefully, it will make the thread more usable for HM fans who wish to consult it, now that it is closed and archived. The numbers following each subject refer to post numbers, not page numbers.

    25th Anniversary 1957, 1959, 1974, 1978-1980
    999 Ghosts?
    1356, 1382, 1592-1594
    Anderson, Ken (see "Ken Anderson's contributions")
    Appearance/Age/Color of Ghosts
    301-302, 1985-1988
    Arm-holding-drink in Graveyard
    1176-1178, 1254, 1260, 1899
    April/December (see "Changing Portraits")
    Attic, history
    59, 96, 243, 244, 728, 1759
    Attic, how the portrait effects work
    641-647
    Attic, props
    245-251, 256, 272, 488-492, 629, 704, 719, 736-737, 769, 796, 1168
    Aunt Lucretia (see "Eye-follow-you Busts")
    Ballroom (Structure, Architecture, etc.)
    112-114, 117-119, 123, 1406, 1757-1758
    Ballroom “Pepper’s Ghost” effect
    5-8, 1414
    Ballroom Dancers
    230, 234, 770, 1396
    Banshees
    386-397, 402, 407, 410-412
    Beating Heart (old Brides)
    728, 1705, 1712, 1759
    Bicycle Ghosts
    550, 552, 1648-1649
    Birthday or “Deathday” in Ballroom?
    786-790
    Bride (see "Beating Heart" and "Constance")
    Caretaker and Dog
    238, 243, 507, 514, 721-722, 855, 863, 1211-1213
    Cast Members
    513-517, 688-691, 1275
    Changing Portrait Hall, Windows and Doors
    1722, 1729-1730, 1860-1866
    Changing Portraits (especially April/December)
    47-56, 64, 108, 650, 1397, 1407, 1724-1727
    Clock, Shadow Hand
    1503, 1507
    Clock, 13-hour
    1558
    Clutch Cargo
    335-336
    Coffin Man
    501-504, 512
    Cold Air effect
    424-429, 536, 1520
    Comics, Haunted Mansion
    185-190, 1365, 1377-1380
    Concept art
    312, 314, 317, 333, 346, 454, 457, 464-465, 498, 576, 585-588, 685, 740, 744, 817, 834-843, 909-911, 987, 1272, 1277, 1606, 1648, 1658, 1662, 1673, 1690, 1702, 1708, 1757-1758, 1787, 1993
    Constance (new bride), actresses who play (see "Kat Cressida and Julia Lee")
    Constance (new bride) controversy/backstory
    74-75, 708-716, 937
    Constance (new bride) effect
    22, 25, 140-141, 323
    Constance’s husbands (especially George) (for the portrait effect, see "Attic, how the portrait effects work")
    78-84, 243, 256, 482, 604-610, 614, 921-922, 934, 948
    Corridor of Doors portraits
    885, 889, 891, 1330-1332
    Corridor of Doors wallpaper
    743, 745-755, 1687
    Corridor of Doors, missing monologue
    64, 66, 68, 1294, 1983
    Corridor of Doors, show sequence
    1597, 1603-1605
    Crypt Shroud Ghost in Graveyard
    1326
    Cupola (turret on top of HM)
    352-353, 1096
    "Dead End” sign/Exit signs
    1024, 1089-1090, 1393
    Disneyland HM vs. WDW HM
    1297-1299, 1892-1896
    Duelists (Ballroom)
    157, 180-181, 193-200, 203-209, 833
    Duncan, Sandy: DL Special, HM skit
    1492, 1496, 1508-1511
    Ectoplasm/Face effect (Séance Room)
    116, 830-832, 885-887, 1155
    Epitaphs
    582, 594-596, 1871, 1973
    Eyes-follow-you Busts (Aunt Lucretia)
    1367
    Fastpass Area
    1850-1859
    Forced Perspective in the HM?
    543-547, 559
    Frogs
    1277
    Front Gate
    1304, 1309
    Ghost Animals
    1345-1366, 1372
    Ghost Host Spiel (see also "Corridor of Doors, missing monologue")
    1032 (load area), 1294, 1448, 1452 (CoD), 1448, 1452, 1461, 1464 (stretchroom) 1799
    Ghost Stories, “real”
    637, 641, 1549, 1551
    Gobos (Shadow effects)
    762, 1503, 1507, 1758
    Graveyard soundtrack/vocalists
    99, 382, 1812-1827
    Grim Grinning Ghost lyrics
    1698-1701
    Gus (Hitchhiking Ghost/Prisoner)
    814, 1183, 1188, 1193, 1302-1303, 1313
    Hairstyles, changing, on ghosts
    797-801
    Hatbox Ghost, comeback?
    86-88, 111, 310, 421-422
    Hatbox Ghost, history
    19-21, 65-66, 200-201, 236, 414-417, 601, 604-613, 949, 957, 1335-1338
    Hatbox Ghost, pictures
    1632, 1656, 1658
    Haunted House/Spirit-Possessed Buildings, or "Why does it look that way?"
    129-133, 1114
    Haunted Mansion in Frontierland?
    1767, 1775-1776, 1961-1972
    Haunted Mansion photography
    in general: 1511, 1767, 1771, 1892, 1956; opening day shots? 1244-1250;front gate: 1304, 1309; Pana-vue slides: 1180, 1184, 1251; postcards: 1613, 1637; View-master: 1761-1764; Osmonds TV special: 1406, 1428, 1640
    Haunted Mansion press clippings, articles
    381, 383, 385, 1515, 1554, 1663, 1750, 1767, 1979
    Haunted Mansion storyline, or lack thereof (see also "Constance," "Movie," "Sea-Captain")
    210-212
    Hearse Tea-Party (graveyard)
    1251, 1254, 1256, 1313, 1329, 1332, 1739, 1899
    Hearses in the HM
    1073-1076
    Hercules (HM tribute)
    340
    Hidden Faces
    1086, 1092, 1109, 1111-1113, 1152, 1627
    Hitchhiking Ghosts, mirror effect
    1, 497, 1413, 1576, 1877-1891
    Hitchhiking Ghosts, old effect/new effects (proposed)
    810, 849, 996-1004, 1872-1873, 1942-1943
    Hitchhiking Ghosts, old look/new look
    845, 866-868, 878, 1005-1008, 1180, 1187, 1272
    Hitchhiking Ghosts, were they “last-minute” additions? No!
    494
    Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte (movie)
    971-977
    Ghost Host/Hanging Man/Hatchet Man
    891-902, 913, 922-926
    Indian Burial Ground, is the WDW HM built on it?
    1324
    Jean Lafitte (proposed “mega-theme”)
    281-300, 303-307, 365, 731, 963-965
    Jimmy Macdonald
    1134, 1141, 1148
    Kat Cressida/Julia Lee (actresses playing Constance)
    265-268, 891, 932-933, 935, 1018, 1473
    Ken Anderson’s contributions
    518, 523, 527-535, 538, 1413, 1673
    Knight, live actor
    14-16, 27, 29, 33, 39, 1739
    Knight/Executioner/Gus scene (graveyard)
    209, 1193, 1662, 1828
    Little Leota
    561
    Load Area (“Limbo”)
    45-46, 418, 440-441, 451-453, 1560, 1563-1572
    Madame Leota
    168, 727, 1146, 1151, 1156, 1159, 1184, 1205, 1282, 1456, 1459, 1779-1785
    Madame Leota’s Spell Book
    1037, 1225, 1229, 1309
    Movie, Haunted Mansion
    447, 454, 464-465
    Mummy Scene (graveyard)
    1217-1224, 1259, 1365-1366
    Museum of the Weird
    218, 987, 1687, 1805, 1925, 1940, 1947
    Music, manner of use in the HM
    652-687, 1053, 1698
    Music, Sheet, at WDW piano scene
    1945-1956
    Names of Ghosts, official/unofficial
    549, 563-564, 597, 722-723, 730, 1015-1016, 1029-1031, 1113
    One-eyed Black Cat
    1714-1715, 1731-1734, 1742, 1748-1750
    Opening Date: Aug 9, 1969? No!
    397, 1515-1519, 1523
    Organist/Organ (Ballroom)
    275, 278, 1489-1491, 1640, 1658, 1674, 1739, 1757-1758, 1761-1762
    Osmonds TV special (see "Haunted Mansion photography")
    Pet Cemetery (two of them)
    209, 1487, 1846, 1908-1917, 1938, 1940
    Phantom Five (graveyard musicians)
    1526, 1577-1578, 1680, 1751, 1761
    Phantom Manor
    210, 433-434, 1405, 1410, 1627, 1941, 1947
    Phantom/Shadow Keyboardists
    31-32, 692-695, 707, 1162
    Phineas Pock
    573, 722, 1497-1498
    Pickwick (chandelier ghost)
    549, 553, 556-558, 561
    Poe, Edgar Allan
    738, 883
    Pop-ups/Blast-ups
    65, 67, 68, 149-156, 160-161, 154-167, 170, 172-179, 1169-1171, 1176, 1202, 1265, 1278-1281, 1337-1338, 1398, 1407
    Purple Shroud Ghost (Séance Room)
    34, 36, 60, 1326-1327
    Queue Graveyard
    1837-1847, 1871, 1973
    Raven
    424, 907, 908, 943
    Re-used Heads in the HM?
    870-875, 1251, 1254-1256, 1641, 1651
    Scrims
    474-476
    Sea Captain (HM backstory)
    518, 568-571, 576, 579, 800, 982-984, 1320
    Séance Room, furnishings and arrangement (see also “Spirit Cabinets”)
    1205, 1282, 1292, 1702
    Singing Busts
    563-564, 597, 722, 1787
    “Sinister 11” (WDW HM portraits)
    458, 742, 1580, 1723
    Snow White’s Scary Adventures and the HM
    721, 762, 1507, 1947
    Song Lyrics (see also “Grim Grinning Ghosts”)
    100, 121-122, 124-126
    Speed of the Ride
    1025, 1293, 1429, 1439, 1444, 1493, 1622-1624, 1681-1683, 1774-1775
    Spiders
    435-436, 1560, 1563-1572
    SpiderWeb Man (WDW HM’s “Man in the Web”)
    23, 238, 243, 255, 603
    Spirit Cabinets
    1153-1154
    Stars (in graveyard sky)
    183-184
    “Story and Song of the Haunted Mansion” record album
    414-418, 424, 790, 926, 1133, 1979
    Stretchroom Portraits (especially the Widow)
    104-107, 621-628, 1529-1546, 1552
    Surrell, Jason, The Haunted Mansion (book)
    597-603, 730, 1322
    “Swinging Wake”
    358-364, 372-377
    Tokyo Haunted Mansion
    577-578, 588, 590-596, 765, 1326-1327
    Tombstone History and Design
    1385-1395
    Trees, Graveyard
    560, 714-718, 721, 777-785
    Unused Concepts
    339, 430, 438, 579, 829, 907, 1053, 1398, 1520, 1606, 1621
    Walt’s input to the HM
    211, 215, 217, 220
    “Why the Haunted Mansion Matters”
    1992
    Wilde, Oscar
    738
    Witch of Walpurgis (WDW portrait)
    457, 460-463, 987, 990, 1954
    Wraiths in Ballroom and on Scrims in Graveyard
    1511-1514
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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Oh, it's okay to post on this thread. Hopefully, there will be a link to that one post only. We should probably start a new thread though, with a less clunky title.

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    This makes me want to go back and reread The Thread!!
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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    It's been done! (Thanks, IndianaJenn)
    The first post of The Thread now has a link to the index above.

    It was a lot of fun going through it again. Amazing how much info poured into that thing. The "Concept Art," "Haunted Mansion photography," and "Unused Concepts" entries in the index point to particularly enjoyable aspects.


    P.S. I've now linked the Index to The Thread also, so if you're at the Index, you don't have to go searching for The Thread as it sinks further down the list.
    Last edited by HBG2; 07-26-2007 at 09:37 PM.

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Thanks for all of your hard work HBG. Your love and passion for the Haunted Mansion benefits us all.

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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GRD999 View Post
    You know... What I never understood about them removing the exit sign, was why not just add it to the top of the up ramp before you turn to go outside? Because afterall, we still aren't in the living world. There are the ghostly singing voices, the ghostly laugh and Little Leota still before we actually exit. Made sense to me anyway....
    The sign is there to get you to step out of your doombuggy, I think. Otherwise folks might just sit there until it went back around to the loading bay.
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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by aashee View Post
    Thanks for all of your hard work HBG. Your love and passion for the Haunted Mansion benefits us all.

    Chad
    Thanks, Chad. It was a lot of work, but it was fun to revisit all that material.

    Quote Originally Posted by BassBone View Post
    The sign is there to get you to step out of your doombuggy, I think. Otherwise folks might just sit there until it went back around to the loading bay.
    The Bone is right, I think. You've got the sign, then the GH saying he will lift the safety bar, and you've got the inelegant additions to the spiel about stepping out to the left, and you've got a CM right there. When the HM first opened, my recollection is that you had the GH's spiel and the CM, and that was it. There must have been some confused folks, folks not sure if this was just a haunted house trick, folks not paying sufficient attention, etc. Probably there were folks naively thinking the ride should stop before they get out, like any normal ride. The moving conveyor belt thing was still a weird concept to a few guests, and they may have been hesitant about stepping out of a moving vehicle.

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    Thanks for organizing & encouraging such an elaborate & fabulous index of the thread. Hours of info, piccies & conversation for all of us on our favorite subject!
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    Re: Index for "Long-Forgotten" HM Thread

    This is a clumsy screen-grab of the Doombuggies.com thread that is linked in the first post of the whole "Long-Forgotten" thread. I've created this duplicate because the EZboard format at DB.com will inevitably result in the original thread disappearing.









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