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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    I seems like if anywhere the HBG would go directly across from Constance. I do agree that it would make the most sense having him right at the front, signing into the wedding party, with "present" in tow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBG2 View Post
    Not necessarily directly across from Constance. He could be a bit earlier. From the portrait of the Marquis to the exit, on the right side, there's nothing going on. The buggies already face straight ahead for that whole section, with no tilting to either side, so nothing needs to be altered there.

    If it were me, I'd purposely make it low-key. The Hatbox fan club may be fervent, but it is also small. For most of the public he would just be another ghostie over there. I wouldn't even have him talk. Those who want to see him return will see him, and they don't need a spotlight and fanfare to appreciate him. In other words, let Constance continue to be the dominatrix she is, the climax of the attic scene, and let HBG be a subtler presence that doesn't distract or compete too much.

    The complaint that there's just too much to see in too short a viewing time was commonly raised when the new attic debuted in May 05. You don't hear that so much any more. Because of overfamiliarity, people forget how jam-packed the ballroom and graveyard are. No one can take it all in without multiple visits. I don't think the HBG would make the attic too full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Datameister View Post
    Meh, I dunno. Different circumstances. If they bring back the HBG, it'll be partly due to his minor cult status, which means they'd probably have the common sense to know that major changes wouldn't be greatly appreciated.



    I agree.



    Don't start giving me ideas. Hmmm...that gives me four days. Maybe I can make it happen. Or, more realistically, maybe I'll just ask him if there are any plans to bring back the character, and if it feels right, I'll bring up the idea.

    I'd love for them to proceed with our dream, yet, at the same time, if you throw yours & HBG2 genius idea at him, Tony may refrain, so corporate won't have to pay you! I'd just inquire about our good friend with a missing head in a box instead...
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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    No money, just give me:

    (1) Lifetime DL pass for me and my family,
    (2) Access to HM historical archives at WDI for one month, to do research,

    and I'll sign over all rights to the HATBOX PIT™, Tony. Such a deal. And if you don't use it here and now, for HBG2, it might come in handy down the road, y'know.

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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    HATBOX PIT™
    Sounds like a Haunted Mansion-themed bar/club.

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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustymuscle View Post
    Sounds like a Haunted Mansion-themed bar/club.
    Oh, we're all much more into cabarets these days, or hadn't you noticed?

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    Thumbs up Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Quote Originally Posted by HBG2 View Post
    Oh, we're all much more into cabarets these days, or hadn't you noticed?
    I'll drink to THAT!
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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Quote Originally Posted by HBG2 View Post
    Oh, we're all much more into cabarets these days, or hadn't you noticed?
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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Quote Originally Posted by BassBone View Post
    Wilkommen, bienvenue, welcome.
    Fremder, etrangé, stranger...

    THAT'S HEDLEY!

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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Quote Originally Posted by BassBone View Post
    Wilkommen, bienvenue, welcome.
    Fremder, etrangé, stranger...
    Don't make me break out the Sally Bowles impression. It's rather good.

    Vocally, I mean. I'm nothing like Liza Minelli. She's just scary beyond all reason. I'm scary within reason.
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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustymuscle View Post

    THAT'S HEDLEY!
    Now go do that voodoo that you do... SO WEEEEELLLL!

    It makes me laugh every time I hear the Blazing Saddles theme in Frontierland. What does this have to do with Haunted Mansion? New Orleans Square is a subset of Frontierland... Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by BellhopPrincess View Post
    Don't make me break out the Sally Bowles impression. It's rather good.

    Vocally, I mean. I'm nothing like Liza Minelli. She's just scary beyond all reason. I'm scary within reason.
    You're just scary. But in a good way. The first Sally Bowles I ever saw/heard was Teri Hatcher.
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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2


    I'm tired...so tired.

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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    It's time to recover another lost treasure from the mists of HM history.

    Way back somewhere in the original Thread, I posted about the fact that left and right sides of ViewMaster 3D photos were often published solo, including prints that were never used in the actual ViewMaster reel. Placed side-by-side, you can do a "magic eye" cross-eyed view right off the screen and see the effect.



    Here again is the organist, using a Panavue slide on one side and a 12 Funtastic Scenes postcard on the other. It's dazzling, but since this shot was actually used on the VM reel, it's not exactly an archaeological find:



    More interesting was this Phantom Five shot, combining a shot published in a souvenir book and another from a 1970 magazine ad. Put together, we're clearly looking at an unused VM 3D pic:



    Okay, well guess what? I've got another one...maybe. There is a shot of the hearse tea-party on the VM reel, but it's not this pic. The two pics seen here side-by-side are definitely different, and when you do the magic eye trick it's 3D (look especially at the pouring teapot), but the tombstones in the foreground never quite click into place for me. My guess is that the 3D photographer took several consecutive snaps, and we've got the right side from one shot and the left from another, taken close enough together so that it still works pretty much.

    I'm posting two sizes so you can find your optimal cross-eyed comfort zone.



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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

    Boy, that's a rather awkward one. The tombstone in the foreground feels very disjointed.


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    Re: Son of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 2

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    Boy, that's a rather awkward one. The tombstone in the foreground feels very disjointed.
    Yes. But I notice it's vertical misalignment, not horizontal. The center tombstone is visibly lower in one photo. Perhaps the photog took a shot, stepped a little closer, and took another, and we've got left and right from the two. The difference doesn't much affect stuff as far back as the hearse and beyond, but it messes up the tombstones closer to the camera. That's my guess.

    The fact that these are not just two random photos from two different occasions is proven by the precise lining up of the bicycle ghost and the fog on the scrim on the left side. At the same time, multiple shots from the same photo session would have found the bike frozen in the same place, because the figures were turned off for the shoot.

    So this one ain't perfect. Just ignore the stones and join the teaparty itself, with that 3D feeling of "you are there," all the way back to '69.
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