This is a spinoff of another thread. http://www.micechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72873 basically asked for the opinions and trip reports of those who rode it for the first time. I am more interested in the opinions of those who are old enough to remember both. It isn't necessary to go scene by scene, but I wanted the thoughts of those that have seen both. Pros, Cons, I can see this turning into a "which is better" thread but that isn't the point. This is also a chance for the younger crowd to get to know the Old Subs, what people liked, what people didn't like. It will give them a chance to look for something new when they ride.. to say "that used to be where this is now!" sort of a thing. It may get merged but even then I would welcome everyone's thoughts on BOTH.