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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    I say wait till the Timone lot is full. It would be like a 3 minute train ride if they built it now.


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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brer Bear View Post
    Steve, what was wrong with Ward's stew?
    It really wasn't Ward's stew.

    On the Santa Fe Super Chief trip to the Railroad Fair that Walt and Ward took in 1948, the Santa Fe had a famous beef stew that Ward had been dying to try. So, when Walt and Kimball sat down in the dining car and ordered, Walt ordered Filet Mignon and Ward orderd the Santa Fe Beef Stew.

    Walt was aghast! "Beef Stew? for God's sake!" he said. Then he turned to the waiter and said, "He really means he wants Filet Mignon."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brer Bear View Post
    Passing sidings didn't work at Disneyland with Walt at the helm, what makes you think they would work at DCA, a park by committee?
    Actually, passing sidings worked very well at the Park. There was nothing inherently wrong with the idea.

    Adding a third train to the rotation, and four stations to the main line, made the idea impractical.

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    I was thinking about this recently, too. My idea was to use the backstage road and have a rail line that went from Sunshine Plaza behind the Animation bldg., between Bugs Land and ToT, then go around the back of the Wharf, the Pier and cut between the GCH and GRR on an elevated track. Maybe have a spur that linked to the DLRR, so RR enthusiasts could do a figure 8 between the two tracks for special events.

    Or for that dining car excursion the OP mentioned.

    I for one, think DCA should get it's own RR - that would be a great way to make the park more "Walt".

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    Steve: Thanks for that tidbit. That was really good!

    As for the dining train, it wouldn't have to move very fast esp. with the passing sidings. I think esp after the
    Timon parking lot gets developed (Car land?) that the dining train would only make three or four "loops"
    (not that kind of "loop"!!) in one hour.

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    I think it would be cool if the train were a sleaker 1930's design like the building at the ice cream-toy shop (cant remember the name).

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    I think it would be cool if the train were a sleaker 1930's design like the building at the ice cream-toy shop (cant remember the name).
    You mean Burr-Bank. It's the same train.

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    Quote Originally Posted by SciFi96 View Post
    I think it would be cool if the train were a sleaker 1930's design like the building at the ice cream-toy shop (cant remember the name).
    The actual train was called the California Zephyr, I believe.
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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    Quote Originally Posted by TDR_Fan View Post
    The actual train was called the California Zephyr, I believe.
    I think Zack1 means that the Santa Fe and Western Pacific locomotives are the same (GM F-3s or F-7s).

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    While I can see the potential I don't think it would be practical. If anything I would have gone with the California Zephyer however that would be a bit of a stretch on the theme. Also I don't think DCA has the room or the physical real estate to make the trip worth it. I can see parking some big cars and locos like Travel Town but then you have kids climbing and lawsuits everywhere. I also thought about a resturaunt, even pitched that on another thread, like Barstow's famous McDonald's station but again you have the real estate issue. At this point I would be happy just to see a Trolley.
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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    I think this just might work. The main station would go where the current entrance plaza is now, there is enough back stage area to accommodate a train track behind Hollywood back lots. Once the Timon lot comes out there is no need for the road to access it so the tracks could run where the road is now. The first stop would be behind the Tower of Terror and a great addition to that area. The second stop would be at the end of the current Timon lot and the future Carsland. The third stop would be after CA Screamin' and themed with the rest of Paradise Pier. The next stretch of track is the tricky part, the GCH is really close to the park here so I thought it might work to incorporate a raised bridge here. I've put together a little illustration ..... what do you think?

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    Re: Grand Circle Tour of DCA (A train idea)

    ^I really like that, Greg! But... there's a couple problematic spots (IMHO) that exist... so I made my own layout, taking cues from you, but refining it a little bit.

    (I know the stations aren't all the same size in my photo, but, you get the idea... Also, the two large green areas next to the Hollywood Station and the PP Station are new walkways to allow guest access to the on-stage areas. Or, we could let them roam around backstage. Ooh! I like that idea!! )

    So, here for your viewing pleasure (or disgust), are my thoughts on the matter:



    And yes, I did piece this together from Google Earth. I wanted a higher quality image to work with, so, that's what I did. Also, my thoughts are that there should also be a Monorail station included at the new DCA transit center. Sure, the Monorail doesn't exactly fit the theme with 1930's Hollywood, but it will be passing through there anyways, and we could use a Monorail stop there. Think how handy that would be to go to DCA. Instead of having to drudge through the crowds, exit the park, cross the esplanade, and wait in line to get into the other park, you'd just go to Tomorrowland and hop on the Monorail.

    Anyways, those are my thoughts (in brief). What do you think?

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