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    Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Excuse me as I geek out for a moment but last night I was in the park with Gwyren and my roommate and we saw the Ward Kimball and it was pulling a caboose after its regular cars! As if it wasn't enough to see the Ward in person, but a caboose too! Just like a regular train!! So, of course I had to ride it, and they were nice enough to wait a few trains 'til it came around again and not laugh at me as I totally had a few geeky moments once we were on. (Right guys? Guys? ... guys? )

    Anyway, it's an enclosed car and it was nice and plush inside with a cushioned bench along each side. There was a little room in back that almost looked like a (miniature) sleeper car. I didn't really take any inside pics but I took a few of the outside which I'll post when my roommate gets them to me

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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Isn't that the caboose that's normally on the excursion train?
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    We saw that yesterday too. We were more amazed that they finally put it back. I don't think it's been attached to a train in a while. I do believe that it's called the "LillyBelle".
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    I don't think it is the Lilly Belle- you would know the lilly belle if you saw it- It was a car used exculsively by the Disney family, and later, Club 33 members- very plush and decadent and too nice for the general public to use. I asked Steve DeGataeno about the Lilly Belle and he said that it was not scheduled for refurbishment anytime soon, so I would be very surprised if that is what it was. If it was the Lilly Belle, put me on the next plane out there- that is indeed a rare treat!
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Well, i'd never seen a caboose on the trains, though I haven't been going to DL for very long.

    It definately wasn't the Lily Belle, at least it wasn't all plush and decadent... minus the plastic cushions
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    I've ridden in a caboose at DL before ..... maybe 10 years ago or so ..... it was nice .....
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Yes, there is a caboose on one of the trains. I think it's the excursion train, I wish I wasn't at work and could look that up. It has a bench on either side of the caboose and some windows. Towards the back is a door that's always locked with a set of stairs that if you were able to go back there, you could climb about three steps so that you might fit your head in and look out a very small observation tower.

    I'll be at the park tonite and if the Ward Kimball is running, I'll be taking lots of pictures, so I'll be sure to take a pic of the entire train and it's caboose, whatever it is.

    The Lilly Belle is unusable at this time. It has suffered wood rot to the extent that it wouldn't hold anyone's weight to stand inside it. I heard that when Matt Ouimet sent down a request to come see it, the roundhouse crew spent some time working on it just so that he could actually take a step or two into it.
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverNeverland
    Excuse me as I geek out for a moment but last night I was in the park with Gwyren and my roommate and we saw the Ward Kimball and it was pulling a caboose after its regular cars! As if it wasn't enough to see the Ward in person, but a caboose too! Just like a regular train!! So, of course I had to ride it, and they were nice enough to wait a few trains 'til it came around again and not laugh at me as I totally had a few geeky moments once we were on. (Right guys? Guys? ... guys? )

    Anyway, it's an enclosed car and it was nice and plush inside with a cushioned bench along each side. There was a little room in back that almost looked like a (miniature) sleeper car. I didn't really take any inside pics but I took a few of the outside which I'll post when my roommate gets them to me

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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Not geeking out at all... that's awesome! How were the crowds yesterday, BTW? Excuse my ignorance, but will there be two or three trains running this year?


    Quote Originally Posted by NeverNeverland
    Excuse me as I geek out for a moment but last night I was in the park with Gwyren and my roommate and we saw the Ward Kimball and it was pulling a caboose after its regular cars! As if it wasn't enough to see the Ward in person, but a caboose too! Just like a regular train!! So, of course I had to ride it, and they were nice enough to wait a few trains 'til it came around again and not laugh at me as I totally had a few geeky moments once we were on. (Right guys? Guys? ... guys? )

    Anyway, it's an enclosed car and it was nice and plush inside with a cushioned bench along each side. There was a little room in back that almost looked like a (miniature) sleeper car. I didn't really take any inside pics but I took a few of the outside which I'll post when my roommate gets them to me


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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyren
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    There were three trains running yesterday. I got to the park later in the day, and it was pretty crowded but not overbearing. Wait times weren't too TOO bad... Other than the usual! Pooh did have a 15 minute wait though!
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Regarding the Lilly Belle, you can't find some nice photos and information here... though it appears that it's slightly out of date.
    http://waltstoytrains.railfan.net/lilly.htm
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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    Pretty train car. They should restore it and allow the public to enter that train.

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    Re: Ward Kimball has a Caboose!

    The caboose, car 208, trails the Holiday Red, in the "200" series of cars, which are made up of ersatz stock cars and gondolas. It is an original piece of Disneyland Railroad equipment, built back in '55. I don't believe it has ever been dettached from the rest of the train (since the device that registers the speed of the train to the tachometer in the engine's cab is on the car, it is kind of important to have it along for the ride).

    The word "caboose" is often used incorrectly by Disney and other writers, in describing the Lilly Belle. A caboose is a car that railroad crewman would travel in to keep tabs on the train (through the cupola look-out on the roof), and use as living and office quarters.

    The Lilly Belle (car 106--retaining her number from the days when she was the "Grand Canyon" in 1955) is a passenger car, more precisely termed a parlor or observation car.

    While both cars appear at the end of trains, the Lilly Belle is not a caboose.

    The Caboose is often open to riders, but may depend on the will of the conductor asked. It is a fun ride, although folks aren't allowed in the cupola (the section described above as a "sleeper" section).

    The Lilly Belle is still awaiting a complete rebuild. Most folks will never get to ride it--it is reserved for dignitaries and other VIPs.

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    Thanks for the true RR low-down we can always rely on you for, Steve.


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