Jungle Book Cruise?

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Originally Posted by MasterGracey

Considering the Jungle Cruise film is reportedly set in present-day, I don't see the film doing particularly well, and if the film tanks, we won't see any attraction updates.

The Jungle Cruise attraction is set in, what, the 1930s? The film should similarly be a period film, like Pirates is. Setting attraction films in the present-day, when the source material is NOT in the present-day, is what eventually leads to their demise (see: Country Bears, Haunted Mansion).

I agree, the movie sounds like it's off to a rocky start. Sounds more "Eddie Murphy Haunted Mansion" than "Johnny Depp Pirates of the Caribbean."

[AwesomeMan33]

Originally Posted by MasterGracey

Considering the Jungle Cruise film is reportedly set in present-day, I don't see the film doing particularly well, and if the film tanks, we won't see any attraction updates.

The Jungle Cruise attraction is set in, what, the 1930s? The film should similarly be a period film, like Pirates is. Setting attraction films in the present-day, when the source material is NOT in the present-day, is what eventually leads to their demise (see: Country Bears, Haunted Mansion).

what part of "loosely based" dont' you understand? They mentioned that like day one



not to mention its said to be set in the 20th century not 21st....so not that present

[MasterGracey]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer

If they're going to invest in upgrading them, it might be more entertaining to see the Jungle Book characters and tell one cohesive story with a soundtrack and everything.

Why must every attraction be force-feeding us a story.

Frankly, I'm tired of all of the attractions that force a story upon us. Tony Baxter's Imagineering needs to chill out with their propaganda about all Disney attraction having a story. It's simply untrue and unnecessary.

Can't we just have a WED Imagineering and Marc Davis'-style classic "experience ride" every now and then?

[Dustysage]

I agree that the Jungle Cruise could use some updating in technology, like they have done with Haunted Mansion. We did get water explosions and piranha for the 50th. I'd like to see more of that kind of thing.

There was also a proposal to have the boats use a motion base (like a water friendly Indy base) which could make it seem that you were entering rapids or being rammed by a hippo, etc. That would have been a nice touch without ruining the spirit of the ride.

I've also thought that they could automate the ride a bit more by having it narrated by an animatronic shrunken head who always delivers the spiel perfectly. Wouldn't require as many cast members and would resolve the problem of bad skippers (and there are quite a few of those out there - especially at Disneyland).

[MasterGracey]

Originally Posted by AwesomeMan33

what part of "loosely based" dont' you understand? They mentioned that like day one

Loosely-based doesn't mean they have to completely change time periods. Why do you think Adventureland is so innteresting and evocative? Because it takes us to a different place and time.

Country Bears and Haunted Mansion failed to take movie-goers to a different place and time like their attraction counterparts did. That, and a reliance on "family-friendly" slapstick humor is what led to their box office failures.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Right now it's:

"OH Gosh, there's WATER BUFFALOS!"

"There's a hippopotamus, [insert corny joke HERE!] folks."

"Look at that pack of lions by the sleeping zebra."

Yawn. The reason the tradition of jokester skippers evolved, is it is literally too simplistic to say "Look, a tiger." "Oh, it's a zebra being slaughtered by lions." etc. all day long.

[AwesomeMan33]

Originally Posted by MasterGracey

Loosely-based doesn't mean they have to completely change time periods. Why do you think Adventureland is so innteresting and evocative? Because it takes us to a different place and time.

Country Bears and Haunted Mansion failed to take movie-goers to a different place and time like their attraction counterparts did. That, and a reliance on "family-friendly" slapstick humor is what led to their box office failures.

its still about being in the amazon searchgn for a cure...last I checked there isn't a mall in the amazon so how can you really date it since I doubt the cast will wear Nike and Adaias athletic clothing. But not our fault everyone is so closed minded which is pretty sad

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Originally Posted by MasterGracey

Why must every attraction be force-feeding us a story.

...And don't spend your time lookin' around
For something you want that can't be found
When you find out you can live without it
And go along not thinkin' about it
I'll tell you something true

The bare necessities of life will come to you...

[MasterGracey]

Originally Posted by AwesomeMan33

its still about being in the amazon searchgn for a cure...last I checked there isn't a mall in the amazon so how can you really date it since I doubt the cast will wear Nike and Adaias athletic clothing. But not our fault everyone is so closed minded which is pretty sad

I wouldn't be surprised if there are GPS systems, cell phones, and possibly lap tops in the film.

That's how you can date the film.


It isn't that I'm closed-minded for this, but based on other Disney attraction-based films set in present-day, I don't think it's out of line to be wary of thinking this will be a great film.

[larasound]

I've GOT IT! I have the solution! Tie the Jungle Cruise into "A BUGS LIFE" and the story will revolve around going into the Amazon in search of a rare cancer curing Pixar Bug.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Originally Posted by Dustysage

I agree that the Jungle Cruise could use some updating in technology, like they have done with Haunted Mansion. We did get water explosions and piranha for the 50th. I'd like to see more of that kind of thing.

There was also a proposal to have the boats use a motion base (like a water friendly Indy base) which could make it seem that you were entering rapids or being rammed by a hippo, etc. That would have been a nice touch without ruining the spirit of the ride.

I've also thought that they could automate the ride a bit more by having it narrated by an animatronic shrunken head who always delivers the spiel perfectly. Wouldn't require as many cast members and would resolve the problem of bad skippers (and there are quite a few of those out there - especially at Disneyland).

Thanks for jumping in there. You seem to agree with my criticisms of the current attraction without endorsing a Jungle Book overlay.

One thing that pops to mind is if you automate the ride, do you have a problem with sending that many guests so far back into the 'jungle' without supervision? What happens if a crazy lady starts kicking you (happened recently to someone on MiceChat) or someone has a medical problem and they're midway through the ride.

[Dustysage]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer

Thanks for jumping in there. You seem to agree with my criticisms of the current attraction without endorsing a Jungle Book overlay.

One thing that pops to mind is if you automate the ride, do you have a problem with sending that many guests so far back into the 'jungle' without supervision? What happens if a crazy lady starts kicking you (happened recently to someone on MiceChat) or someone has a medical problem and they're midway through the ride.

The same could really be said for Pirates or Small World which last even longer. I suppose if you used a motion base, it would be enough reason to put all the seats facing forward and at least use a lap belt.

[Junthor]

Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano

This is rich!

Why am I the only one here allowed to disagree with you? Several posters disagreed with you before I even unholtsted my Colt .45s.

But I am flattered that my opinions have so much effect on you!

OH MY GOSH.... Steve DeGaetano posted right before I did!!!!!


Bookmark!!! Bookmark!!!!

[Bruce Bergman]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer

Thanks for jumping in there. You seem to agree with my criticisms of the current attraction without endorsing a Jungle Book overlay.

One thing that pops to mind is if you automate the ride, do you have a problem with sending that many guests so far back into the 'jungle' without supervision? What happens if a crazy lady starts kicking you (happened recently to someone on MiceChat) or someone has a medical problem and they're midway through the ride.

The ride could definitely use some more "Plussing" like interactive elements triggered from the boat, like the Elephant Pool times 10. Or build the effect into the boat or the guide rail, like a shaker system so you think a Hippo is ramming the boat from below...

And they could add some much more realistic AA's with more range of motion and emotion layered on top of the basic mechanisms - anyone who believes that "The Lost Expedition" are real jungle explorers being chased up a real tree by a real rhino really needs to have their eyeglasses' prescription checked...

That said, they do NOT need to have a "Jungle Book" or "Winnie the Pooh" overlay, or anything else abstract and absurd done - the Skippers can easily make plenty of Funny out of what they've got with a themed series of Jungle Book or Winnie jokes if they want.

(And the Managers need to lighten up the rules on the scripts just a tad - If the jokes are funny and following a theme and a cohesive direction, it's funny. The WFJC "Sells" Funny. No Manager should be critiquing for a nebulous thing like "Is It Funny?" unless he's been a successful Skip - an un-funny person has no basis to judge funny from.)

I can see a Skip who is a good voice mimic working up his own script and doing the entire cruise *as* Pooh Bear. "And there's a Crocodile - Oh, Bother..."

If they have an incident on the ride, that's still what the Skip is there for - Fire off the emergency ammunition to get everyone's attention, and "All Ahead Emergency" back to the dock. Radio ahead and have the proper emergency personnel waiting. It's not like Pirates where they have plenty of places they can evacuate the boat to, there aren't too many places they can toss a gangplank out safely in the middle of the Jungle.

--<< Bruce >>--

[TrojanSkippa]

Originally Posted by Dustysage

I've also thought that they could automate the ride a bit more by having it narrated by an animatronic shrunken head who always delivers the spiel perfectly.

Then it would efeectivly turn the Jungle Cruise into the Columbia, which IMO was much more entertaining when it was actually narrated by CM's, as opposed to the tired "Captain" narration. Part of the fun of Jungle Cruise for me even now, is the possibility of either getting a good skip or a bad one. The AA's are a little dated, but the experience harkens back to an era, when imaginations were encouraged, and we didn't need to have force fed sotrylines and soundtracks to keep us entertained.