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Old 11-15-2007, 01:07 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Here a little info and a couple previously unseen concept images from the Luigi's Roamin' Tires attraction that is currently planned (but on shaky ground) for the Carsland expansion.
Instead of piloting a flying saucer, riders in the new Luigi C-ticket will steer a big-rig truck tire through tilting towers of retreads. Visitors will queue through Casa Della Tires shop where Luigi’s forklift assistant, Guido, will be busy at work.

Near the main entrance to the ride, a play area will feature a tire jungle gym, slide and kid-sized cars.
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Source: Brady MacDonald - LA Times blog
Im sorry but the movie popularity aside, who really thinks anyone wants to gueue in a gas station/tire store and dodge retreads? come on really is this the best Disney can do??

I love the idea of bringing the flying saucers back this idea was also in a concept painting for paradise pier a the orginal DCA preview.

However turning cool flying saucers into car tires in a junkyard seems to be "playing" down what would be a much cooler concept like i dunno maybe Flying saucers!!

You know they wont ever build these tho since heavyset people bottom them out and they wont move, they have a narrow range of weight where they work well too low and you cant manuever to high and it wont move, do you really think disney is going to have a scale outside the queue to weigh people to see if they can ride??! lol
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:14 PM   #107 (permalink)
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I just think that people take it way too far with liability issues. No one wants to take responsibility for themselves anymore. People die of a heart attack on a Disney ride and the family immediately sues...(think back to the Mission: Space deaths).

Now, as for a scale? Why not. They have the cars out front of other rides to see if you fit. They had a weight limit on the Orange Stinger. My wife couldn't ride it for a while (now she is 160 lbs lighter) because of her weight. I am sorry, but Disney will NEVER be able to accomodate everyone on every ride. There will always be some weight or height factor which will play into it. I think Disney should go forward with this idea to do the flying tires. I think it is a grand idea that brings back a classic. Unfortunately, not everyone can ride it, but there is plenty more for them to do also.

**Please do not take this as I do not like heavy people what so ever.**
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:29 PM   #108 (permalink)
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I just think that people take it way too far with liability issues. No one wants to take responsibility for themselves anymore. People die of a heart attack on a Disney ride and the family immediately sues...(think back to the Mission: Space deaths).

Now, as for a scale? Why not. They have the cars out front of other rides to see if you fit. They had a weight limit on the Orange Stinger. My wife couldn't ride it for a while (now she is 160 lbs lighter) because of her weight. I am sorry, but Disney will NEVER be able to accomodate everyone on every ride. There will always be some weight or height factor which will play into it. I think Disney should go forward with this idea to do the flying tires. I think it is a grand idea that brings back a classic. Unfortunately, not everyone can ride it, but there is plenty more for them to do also.

**Please do not take this as I do not like heavy people what so ever.**
I disagree with the comment about the Mission Space deaths, these people had hidden uknown heart weakness as do a small percentage of the population and therefore guests, I dont think Disney should be making rides that can potentially kill this percentage of people if they ride it and that will happen as we saw, after two deaths they tone it down ...that tells you something, even the astronauts who rode it said it was equal to or even exceeded the gforces and violence one feels during an actual liftoff and astronauts are rigorously tested and examined for hidden ailments and are trained to cope with these forces, what disney did is akin to letting families walk in off the street and shoot them off in a space shuttle if that isnt irresponsible I dont know what is. And I know about the warning signs all over but they mean NOTHING if you have an unknown hidden condition. This just isnt the place for something that can KILL you period and the "well they are only a small percentage of the guest population so its ok" attitued, paleeeze .............. one death of a human being is not worth all the people that would enjoy a ride, and what if that person was a loved one or you?
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:27 PM   #109 (permalink)
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what disney did is akin to letting families walk in off the street and shoot them off in a space shuttle if that isnt irresponsible I dont know what is.
Irresponsible, huh? Tell that to NASA, why don't ya. I'm sure that will do wonders to their funding if they say that space flights that will perhaps be commonplace for average people in the future is "irresponsible." I don't remember that word being used to describe the Tomorrowland of Rocket to the Moon or Mission to Mars. I refuse to believe that any modern attraction Disney operates does so under conditions that merit irresponsibility.*

*[The Big Thunder death of 2004 was irresponsibility of a different kind - maintenance. But the "irresponsible" GothicManor referenced was the intensity of the ride itself.]

And guess what, GothicManor, you're talking about "a small percentage of the population" again, and this time, it is literally one in tens of millions. That is how (un)likely it is that a guest with "unknown hidden conditions" will put him or her self in a position risking death.

Back to the DCA aspect of this conversation, I do not think anyone needs to worry about how safe the attraction will be when it opens. As stated in Al's article and elsewhere, DOSH regulations might not even let it exist.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:49 PM   #110 (permalink)
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even the astronauts who rode it said it was equal to or even exceeded the gforces and violence one feels during an actual liftoff and astronauts are rigorously tested and examined for hidden ailments and are trained to cope with these forces
Maybe I'm just ignorant to this information, I've never heard this claim, EVER - even during the news blitz when the couple times guests were getting injured/dying on the attraction. I find it hard to believe that Disney would build an attraction that matches or exceeds the rigorous testing NASA astronauts go through, or that it would even be allowed in the State of Florida to do so.

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Old 11-15-2007, 05:28 PM   #111 (permalink)
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I whole-heartedly agree. Last time I checked Disneyland was meant to be a family-oriented park. I have yet to see how alcohol is family oriented. To me it goes against what Disneyland is all about.

I don't mean to be rude ..... but I have been to Europe and visited an actual beer garden. They are great places were all people from the community can come and share a meal.

its just like the casual lunch places found in the US the only real difference is that you aren't labeled an Alcoholic if you drink beer at lunchtime in those other cultures

I.M.O. there's nothing wrong with DCA getting a Beer garden themed eatery because it would be a great addition if executed well.

AND DCA allready serves booze so unless that was your primary concern theres nothing to worry about
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I don't mean to be rude ..... but I have been to Europe and visited an actual beer garden. They are great places were all people from the community can come and share a meal.

its just like the casual lunch places found in the US the only real difference is that you aren't labeled an Alcoholic if you drink beer at lunchtime in those other cultures

I.M.O. there's nothing wrong with DCA getting a Beer garden themed eatery because it would be a great addition if executed well.

AND DCA allready serves booze so unless that was your primary concern theres nothing to worry about
To be honest I've never felt that alcohol should be served in any Disney parks. It just isn't a "family thing" to me. Of course this could be based on what I grew up around (Mom was/is an alcoholic).

I guess my thing with alcohol at the parks would be if they're going to serve it I'd hope that they at least have a limit per day or a limit per meal sort of policy.

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Old 11-17-2007, 02:21 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Im sorry but the movie popularity aside, who really thinks anyone wants to gueue in a gas station/tire store and dodge retreads? come on really is this the best Disney can do??
I dunno, I think it sounds fun...especially if the towers of tires are rigged to actually sway precariously as you go around them. I have my fingers crossed they save this one.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:42 PM   #114 (permalink)
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The LA Times blog has shared some info regarding another Cars Land attraction: Tow Mater's Junkyard Jamboree.

Disney’s tow truck ride: noise, nausea
Parents will want to break out the Dramamine and earplugs for Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree, easily the dizziest and noisiest of the new rides Disney plans to add to California Adventure as part of its $1.1-billion makeover.

The racket begins before you even board the spinning tractor and cart ride. A play area near the main entrance will feature an interactive junkyard of bangable hubcaps and honkable horns.

Tow Mater, the rusty good ol’ boy tow truck from the animated “Cars” movie, serves as the “Hee Haw”-esque disc jockey for the whipsaw C-ticket. Riders sit in a cart towed by a tractor that spins through Mater’s junkyard. Imagine Disneyland’s Mad Tea Party on a track and you get the general brain-blending idea.

According to Disney storyboards, along the route riders will encounter:
  • Magnetized crane
  • Junked auto tunnel
  • Battery sparker
  • Leaning shack
  • Tire arch
  • Engine steam and smoke

Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree joins Luigi’s Roamin’ Tires levitating bumper cars and the $200-million Radiator Springs Racers thrill ride in the 12-acre Cars Land opening in summer 2012.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:40 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Disappointed that it's on a track. It would have been a great place to showcase the trackless technology in America. It sounds like this is just another Cartoon Spin.

These two junkyard C-Tickets look awful. The more I see of Carsland the more I hate it. Of all the areas in the park so far the 1920s Los Angeles area has the most promise.

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Old 11-18-2007, 06:12 PM   #116 (permalink)
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at least its themed well ( as for as the concept goes)
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This ride looks great!
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:55 PM   #118 (permalink)
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Nice little 'C' ticket attraction. If you're looking for the cutting edge stuff, wait for the Radiator Springs Racers.
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It's sad. I will be 22 when this attraction will open. I wish we didn't ever have to grow up.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:29 PM   #120 (permalink)
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I think it'll be great, IMO.


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