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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Quote Originally Posted by BigThunder View Post
    Here's the updated plan for my HOn30 model of the Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland:



    If you compare it to the actual WED layout of the attraction you can see the compromises and selective compressions I've had to make to get the whole thing to fit in my 8x5' space.



    I'm pretty happy with it overall, but I wish I had room to include the Mark Twain in front of Cascade Peak as I had planned. Oh well, I did fit in a short bit of the DLRR - though it runs a lot closer to my Nature's Wonderland than it ever did in real life.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    That's a really well done plan! Too bad I can't fit the DLRR on mine unlike yours!

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

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    ^Yes, I know. But then I'd gladly sacrifice the Toontown station (which isn't even in Toontown) for a Frontierland expansion.

    By chance do yo uhave a copy of the dvd of this attraction from Extinct Attractions?? If not, you should get it, very informative.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Quote Originally Posted by PLAZAINN1 View Post
    By chance do yo uhave a copy of the dvd of this attraction from Extinct Attractions?? If not, you should get it, very informative.
    I've got it, and yes it is very informative.
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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    For those too young to remember it, here's an interesting view of 'modern' Frontierland with the NWRR on an overlay so you can see exactly where it was:



    It really took up a lot of real estate. That's an area almost 3 times the size of the current BTMRR.
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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    So... That building might still contain the Rainbow Caverns? o_o

    Now hang on to them hats n' glasses, cause this here's the wildest ride in the wilderness!

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    So is the consensus that Splash Mountain would be way more exciting than Jungle Cruise at Disneyland Paris?
    Zip-a-dee-duh.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowflakeSparks View Post
    So... That building might still contain the Rainbow Caverns? o_o
    Sadly, no. The show building that housed the Rainbow Caverns is long gone. I just added it to the shot so people could see its location next to the castle.
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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Ah. I see, and that sucks. D:

    And also:

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    Dude I'm digging that locomotive, I practically like it more than the original. Probaly cause I'm fond of 6 wheel locomotives.

    Now hang on to them hats n' glasses, cause this here's the wildest ride in the wilderness!

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    Zip-a-dee-duh.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowflakeSparks View Post
    Ah. I see, and that sucks. D:

    And also:

    Dude I'm digging that locomotive, I practically like it more than the original. Probaly cause I'm fond of 6 wheel locomotives.
    Thanks, I like 'em too. My past experience with N scale 0-4-0s (when you could get them) is that they didn't run very well. Using the Atlas mechanism means that the locomotives will have all-wheel electrical pick-up and that really helps with small engines like this.
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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Pretty nifty locomotive there.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
    Here's a photo...



    This photo created the spark for my own NWRR model project. The amount of detail and color this photo shows got me interested in Nature's Wonderland and inspired me to build the model (or to contiune building the model )
    Geek question: They obviously weren't live steam, the stack is all wrong and there's no exhaust. Were these gasoline/hydraulic powered (a disguised Plymouth switcher) like Casey Jr? Or batteries? Powered rails?

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

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    Geek question: They obviously weren't live steam, the stack is all wrong and there's no exhaust. Were these gasoline/hydraulic powered (a disguised Plymouth switcher) like Casey Jr? Or batteries? Powered rails?

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    They ran off forklift batteries that lasted for years when the manuafacturer said they wouldn't last long! It was the way Disney used them that made them last so long.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    I think I recall reading something in one of the MouseTales books about them being battery powered...can't recall the specifics though.

    Edit: Appears I'm too late, Nautilus beat me to it.

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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
    They ran off forklift batteries that lasted for years when the manuafacturer said they wouldn't last long! It was the way Disney used them that made them last so long.
    Yes, and they also had working sand domes for traction on the grades and compressed air tanks in the false boilers to operate the brakes and whistles. Pretty clever design all the way around.

    Here is a REAL H.K. Porter Co. steam locomotive:



    It was this type of small industrial engine that inspired the design of the NWRR locomotives.
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    Re: The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

    Here's what you can do with a 6-drivered engine. These are Nn3 (they run on the tiniest track commercially available). Notice how the modeler "hid" the third driver on the Gurley. I find the workmanship here among the best I've ever seen:





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