The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland

[JJ61]

Originally Posted by BigThunder

Yes it has. I forget the year ('84, '85? help me out here Steve), but the entire line was rerouted several hundred feet to the north when Videopolis (now Fantasyland Theater) was put in. If you look at old Park maps you can see that the line used to run very straight across the top of Disneyland, whereas now it makes more of an arc.

That makes sense. Some of the old pictures I have seen make it look like it originally ran just behind Casey Jr. CT. I just did not remember that move taking place.

[Circarama]

Originally Posted by BigThunder

Yes it has. I forget the year ('84, '85? help me out here Steve), but the entire line was rerouted several hundred feet to the north when Videopolis (now Fantasyland Theater) was put in. If you look at old Park maps you can see that the line used to run very straight across the top of Disneyland, whereas now it makes more of an arc.

It was also rerouted some when they added "it's a small world" in 1965, prior to that it was moved in (I think) 1963 when they built the Haunted Mansion.
Steve DeGaetano would know all the info on track changes at Disneyland. He's what you call an expert.

[JJ61]

Originally Posted by Circarama

Steve DeGaetano would know all the info on track changes at Disneyland. He's what you call an expert.

[BigThunder]

Originally Posted by Circarama

Steve DeGaetano would know all the info on track changes at Disneyland. He's what you call an expert.

Y'know, if I had his books here in front of me I could probably look that stuff up. In fact, I'd say those books are a must have for any Disney rail-fan.

[Circarama]

Originally Posted by BigThunder

Y'know, if I had his books here in front of me I could probably look that stuff up. In fact, I'd say those books are a must have for any Disney rail-fan.

I have his first book (on the Disneyland Railroad) but I'm trying to get some business paperwork done and I haven't had time to look up the track changes. I'll probably do that tonight when I'm reading myself to sleep.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

It's your project. You don't have to be 100% historically accurate in that detail.

Put the Santa Fe & Disneyland RR in there just for comparison sake. If it'll be more enjoyable to you, that's what matters.

[Steve DeGaetano]

Hey! Save that "expert" talk for Kevin Yee!

Seriously, I discover new things about the Disneyland Railroad and its history nearly every day! It boggles my mind to think about how much there is to know about this seemingly-simple "amusement park attraction."

Anyway, I don't have the books in front of me either, so I'm going off memory.
Like most of us, as the Park got older, its waistline expanded as well!

Yes, the tracks have been re-routed several times over the years, on all three sides. On the Frontierland side, the tracks were re-routed to make way for New Orleans Square. To give you an idea of just how far out they were moved, you have to remember that Frontierland Station once stood just about where the Blue Bayou entrance is now.

I have a survey marker from when the tracks were re-routed in Frontierland. I believe the date marked on it is 1964. The tracks also pushed out at the top for Small World, and bulged to make room for the GC/Primeval World.

[Steve DeGaetano]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer

Put the Santa Fe & Disneyland RR in there just for comparison sake.

Exactly. This will help people who aren't in the hobby to better visualize the difference in train sizes and track gauges.

[BoygunaSurf]

I have a funny story regarding this ride. Actually, just the soundtrack. I was on a run while listening to this ride spiel on my iPod. The area I was running was pretty dry (desert like) so I am always on the look out for snakes and things. Well it got to the part in the ride where the rattle snake appeared. When the headphones made the 'rattle' sound, I jumped right out of my shoes!

This was one of the most startling experiences of my life!

[BigThunder]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer

It's your project. You don't have to be 100% historically accurate in that detail.

Put the Santa Fe & Disneyland RR in there just for comparison sake. If it'll be more enjoyable to you, that's what matters.

Right you are CA. And since the 'era' I'm modeling is very loosely defined as 1960-1977, I feel free to include whatever details from that period that I like - and I like the SF&DRR running right along side as it did pre-1964.

On a side note, I may not be able to fit the Mark Twain in on the RoA, but I'll definately be including one of the Mike Fink Keel Boats and an Indian War Canoe or two 'racing' in front of Cascade Peak.


The Bertha Mae

[Bruce Bergman]

Originally Posted by Circarama

I have his first book (on the Disneyland Railroad) but I'm trying to get some business paperwork done and I haven't had time to look up the track changes. I'll probably do that tonight when I'm reading myself to sleep.

No, don't do that! There's only one thing worse than waking up at 2 AM and finding the side of your face stuck to a page of a magazine that's all mussed up, and that's finding it stuck to a valuable reference book that's all mussed up.

Besides, that's the lind of reading that's more likely to have you still up to greet the dawn, rather than put you to sleep. I use technical catalogs for that...

--<< Bruce >>--

[disneysnout]

Something Similiar to this ride is in waiting to get green lit for the 2nd Phase of DCA; this will be located somewhere in the Condor Flatts Area, if this gets the green light we should see this in 20014-20017. Depends if the First Phase gets the Money to Fund it.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Originally Posted by disneysnout

Something Similiar to this ride is in waiting to get green lit for the 2nd Phase of DCA; this will be located somewhere in the Condor Flatts Area, if this gets the green light we should see this in 20014-20017. Depends if the First Phase gets the Money to Fund it.

Yeah that's a rumor I'm hoping has some truth to it.

[Steve DeGaetano]

18,007 years from now sure is a long way off!

[Oswald the Rabbitt]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer

Yeah that's a rumor I'm hoping has some truth to it.

Me too, that would be a great addition that i would love to see