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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

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    Pepper, that's a neat photo, and thanks to everyone!! In the dry dock, are there multiple docks or just a single one?

    The projection effect is really pretty neat!
    There is only storage room in dry dock for one submarine.

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    And here's a shot of the show building interior taken while Nemo was under construction:




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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Applegeek View Post
    Pepper, that's a neat photo, and thanks to everyone!! In the dry dock, are there multiple docks or just a single one?
    Just one dry dock!


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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Thise are some neat photos. In the Dry Dock photo, is that a tree in the background?? I'm assuming we're facing in the general direction of the Monorail train storage tracks?

    On the construction photo, is the ladder in the water channel, what would be between the sub and visual effects, or.??? Its a bit confusing, like maybe there is still a channel wall to go in.

    Sorry for all the questions, but I'm a professional engineer, and I just love to see how things "tick"...or swim, in this case... Thanks so much for these photos, this is a really neat site!!

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Well, it fooled me...The show building is dry!! Where do the subs transition to the "dry" mode and back again?? Are the raised up and down at the cavern entrances?

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

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    Is that video projection directly onto glass, sort of like the effects in the Haunted Mansion? .
    Just out of curiosity, what video projections are you referring to in the Mansion? If you mean the Ballroom dancers, they are not images projected onto a sheet of glass, rather they are actual Audio-Anamatronics. Disney used an old theater trick called Pepper's Ghost to make the effect so realistic looking.

    Sorry, but sometimes I blurt out all the little facts I know at random. I didn't mean to frighten you prematurely....


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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Applegeek View Post
    Well, it fooled me...The show building is dry!! Where do the subs transition to the "dry" mode and back again?? Are the raised up and down at the cavern entrances?
    The show building is all filled with water,the whole ride is, there is no transition between dry and wet. Even when you go in the caverns, you are still under water.

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    The show building is all filled with water,the whole ride is, there is no transition between dry and wet. Even when you go in the caverns, you are still under water.
    To my knowledge, that's incorrect. I'm told the show building doesn't contain any water. The transition points are the waterfalls.


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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aura of Foreboding View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what video projections are you referring to in the Mansion? If you mean the Ballroom dancers, they are not images projected onto a sheet of glass, rather they are actual Audio-Anamatronics. Disney used an old theater trick called Pepper's Ghost to make the effect so realistic looking.

    Sorry, but sometimes I blurt out all the little facts I know at random. I didn't mean to frighten you prematurely....
    I meant the "reflection" effects on glass, as in the HM grand ballroom...but now that I know the sub show building is dry, I see how its done. The projection effects in HM are things like the crystal ball, the exit ghost, and the singing statues in the graveyard.

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
    The show building is all filled with water,the whole ride is, there is no transition between dry and wet. Even when you go in the caverns, you are still under water.
    I'm glad I wasn't the only one fooled:

    http://themeparks.about.com/od/disne.../NemoSubDL.htm

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    http://themeparks.about.com/od/disne...the-Water-.htm


    Yep, the show building has no water in it, the subs are above waterline while in the building - and I'll bet that why they are painted yellow only on the top - otherwise you'd see the yellow sub reflect off the "underwater scenes".

    Now my next question is does the track lift, or do the subs lift on the new undercarriage, or is it some sort of gently sloping track, or ??

    The OLD ride was under water the whole way....
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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    The current Nemo subs never change elevation, you are under the waterline for the entire ride. However, in the showbuilding the entire building is not flooded, just a channel for the subs to move through. Somebody on Micechat did a good job with an illustration, and if I weren't at work I could whip one up.

    Long story short, the subs never go dry or change elevation or anything, they are always in the water. Just in the showbuilding, there is only a water channel for the subs, with the set pieces being dry.

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Applegeek View Post
    Well, it fooled me...The show building is dry!! Where do the subs transition to the "dry" mode and back again?? Are the raised up and down at the cavern entrances?
    No, the subs stay underwater the whole time... On Post #17, that "white wall" to the left of the workman on the ladder appears to be the protective paper on a big sheet of either laminated safety glass, Polycarbonate (Lexan®) or Acrylic (Plexiglas®) sheeting. Not sure which they used, but the paper would steer me towards one of the plastics...

    They built several "Dry Boxes" on both sides of the track for the video projection segments, just like the big observation windows at an aquarium - You stay on the "fish side" of the glass at all times, but instead of being the people side, they are the projection side... Then they added detailing in front of the windows to look like rocks and coral.

    Go look for construction photos from a year or two ago, there were threads here on it. They built the show building extension at the very beginning of the ride "in the open", and there are photos where you can spot the first set of new dry boxes on either side of the track.

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Ahhhh...got it... Thanks for the straightening out....

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Okay, I got it now, I got confused between the old subs and the new subs.

    Its too bad the scenes in the caverns are not flooded, that look water creates gives everything in the scenes (at least in the old ride) a better depth of field.

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    Re: Submarine Voyage Ride Building Layout/ Operator View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Applegeek View Post
    Ahhhh...got it... Thanks for the straightening out....
    I think the comment about in the about.com article is referring to that its dry in the building - when that picture was taken. Remember, for long periods the outside was flooded, but the inside was dammed off from the outside lagoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
    Okay, I got it now, I got confused between the old subs and the new subs.

    Its too bad the scenes in the caverns are not flooded, that look water creates gives everything in the scenes (at least in the old ride) a better depth of field.
    The scenes are so shallow to begin with - I don't think it makes much difference. The boat is in water, and you can't tell the far side isn't. Because your side is through glass - you can't see glass in the water that isn't illuminated - especially when the edges are outside your field of view.

    It's like looking through the glass sides of an aquarium.
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