Nemo not underwater!

[Steve DeGaetano]

as a technicality the Sub does submerge every time it goes beneath the waterfall! Also the Sub is below the waterline... just not all of it.

Sorry, but that's just silly! I imagine every true submariner out there is getting a good laugh with this.

So, I suppose when it's raining, the subs are entirely submerged?

And are you submerged when you take a shower?

[Datameister]

So, I suppose when it's raining, the subs are entirely submerged? And are you submerged when you take a shower?

Well, I didn't make the statement, but I will defend it just a little bit by pointing out that the sub is completely surrounded by water when it goes beneath the waterfall, but rain and showers only cover a relatively small amount of a surface with water at any point in time. Not saying it counts as submerged...but there is a difference between the waterfall and sitting in the rain.

[sir clinksalot]

It's a bird, it's a plane...no...it's captain obvious.

True, but the tone doesn't need to be so harsh.

Lol...spare me the drama. This has nothing to do with being 'park savvy' and has everything to do with basic logic.

Disagree. I don't think the poster meant the "Subs" were underwater. If you actually read the post, he's referring to the sets. Something that isn't so obvious.

Wow...yeah, a little harsh there. No, basic logic does not dictate that submarines would not be underwater.

Exactly.

And basic logic still doesn't give anyone the right to be rude.

True Dat'.

Sorry, but that's just silly! I imagine every true submariner out there is getting a good laugh with this.

So, I suppose when it's raining, the subs are entirely submerged?

And are you submerged when you take a shower?

I think they are referring to the fact that you are in "The Cave". Kind of like how a Spellunker would be submerged, relatively speaking.

To answer the original post ... the Subs are never FULLY Submerged underwater. They are at the same level throughout the entire ride as you see them at the dock, and the lagoon. It's ALWAYS been this way.

The sets are what you would call "Dry" sets in that there is generally plexiglass seperating the water part (where the SUB is) from the show scene. This is obvious in some places, not so much in others.

This is due to the nature of some of the video effects and probably the motion the water would make when the sub passes through disrupting some of the sets since they are pretty close to the subs.

[Duck44]

This has potential to be better than the caboose thread.

[Steve DeGaetano]

Well, I didn't make the statement, but I will defend it just a little bit by pointing out that the sub is completely surrounded by water when it goes beneath the waterfall, but rain and showers only cover a relatively small amount of a surface with water at any point in time. Not saying it counts as submerged...but there is a difference between the waterfall and sitting in the rain.

But even in a light rain, the hull of the sub will eventually be entirely covered with water--even if only a few hundred molucules thick. By your logic, this would be "submerged."

[Junthor]

now now..... Lets not argue semantics.. There are plenty of Quality things to argue about

[Datameister]

But even in a light rain, the hull of the sub will eventually be entirely covered with water--even if only a few hundred molucules thick. By your logic, this would be "submerged."

Good point! Though the slippery nature of the hull and the high surface tension of the water would probably ensure at least a few dry spots, and if there were any overhangs on the surface, the areas beneath might be kept dry...

Anyway.

[fo'c's'le swab]

Good point! Though the slippery nature of the hull and the high surface tension of the water would probably ensure at least a few dry spots, and if there were any overhangs on the surface, the areas beneath might be kept dry...

Anyway.

What about humidity levels? I think I have just discovered that we are all submerged. Quick someone note the date and time for posterity. I am a genius.

[disneyland255]

I agree with the OP. I didn't notice this either. I will have to check it out when we go next week. I don't think we have any humidity in Vegas today so I guess I'm not submerged.... Ha ha! JK

[Mtsplash]

I did not know that!

[disneytim]

Isn't the whole purpose of Nemo and all the rides at DL to suspend disbelief and bring imaginary worlds to life? I've known the subs weren't really "underwater" since I was a kid. For almost as long, I've known the "ghosts" in the Haunted Mansion ballroom are just reflections in glass. But that's only for discussion out in the "real world," not to mention dissection and analysis on message boards.

Of course the Nemo sets are fake. They're supposed to be fake. They're just an illusion. But, guess what? While I'm on a ride at Disneyland, I really am exploring the Great Barrier Reef with animated fish and partying with 999 happy haunts. And for a few minutes, you'll never convince me otherwise.

It is kinda cool to see how they really do it though.

[penguinsoda]

Isn't the whole purpose of Nemo and all the rides at DL to suspend disbelief and bring imaginary worlds to life? I've known the subs weren't really "underwater" since I was a kid. For almost as long, I've known the "ghosts" in the Haunted Mansion ballroom are just reflections in glass. But that's only for discussion out in the "real world," not to mention dissection and analysis on message boards.

Of course the Nemo sets are fake. They're supposed to be fake. They're just an illusion. But, guess what? While I'm on a ride at Disneyland, I really am exploring the Great Barrier Reef with animated fish and partying with 999 happy haunts. And for a few minutes, you'll never convince me otherwise.

It is kinda cool to see how they really do it though.

..nuff said...

[sailerm]

I suppose this makes me captain clueless?

I prefer Lord Admiral Clueless

[airick75]

If you look around the internet, there are some articles that mention the whole "under water" illusion though none are entirely clear of how it's done - I'd love to see some behind the scenes pictures. It might shed some light on a question I've always had - If there were an accident on the subs and they filled with water - there's no way, in a panic, people are all going to get out...but I'm sure there's some fail-safe measure in place...hmmm, then again, anyone read "Realityland" and read the story of the monorail that burned at Disney World?

I assume the old subs were "submerged" then, for the sake of discussion, yes?

[justjohn]

For almost as long, I've known the "ghosts" in the Haunted Mansion ballroom are just reflections in glass.

Wait...

The ghosts aren't real?

While I'm on a ride at Disneyland, I really am exploring the Great Barrier Reef with animated fish and partying with 999 happy haunts. And for a few minutes, you'll never convince me otherwise.

There are 999 happy haunts in Nemo too?!