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Old 03-22-2008, 12:01 PM   #346
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Re: Save the Rainforest - Keep "it's a small world" a classic.

I was thinking more along the line that it really is just a ride, and such a major effort would be construed as the efforts of people with no grasp of the outside world. I think it would be easy to paint such a group as disconnected from reality.
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:20 PM   #347
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Be sure to sign this petition:
www.saveitsasmallworld.com/phpPETITION

Unfortunately it doesn't mention "saving the rainforest," but this petition will still help.
Ok massive questions time
  • Who is this petition going to be sent to? News media, Disney, who?
  • Is there an actual letter individuals can send out? or email?
  • Do we have addresses to send to, snail and email, of local media and Disney?
  • Any chance of a logo that people can bond with? I love the "Save the Rainforest" MG came up with
Please do not misunderstand, I appreciate the effort, but I have to ask what purpose this is serving and where this petition is headed.
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Yeah though part of the point of the campaign is to express the idea that this is more than an amusement park ride. It was designed by Walt to be a pean to world peace.

If this is only an amusement park ride, then installing Disney characters in it is ok... so then the campaign is pointless.

If it is more than a mere amusement park ride, then installing Disney characters ruins it's purpose and drawing attention to that fact is entirely reasonable.

In that light a demonstration isn't about changing a thrill ride, it's about supporting global unity.

The trick is to make sure it is seen that way by other people, and not framed as a bunch of Disney obsessed wacko's.

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I think it would be easy to paint such a group as disconnected from reality.
Thus far the LA Times, OC Register, and TMZ all seem to think this "disconnected group" may very well be in the majority. The fact that it has had any coverage is in itself interesting.
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I don't think this petition is necessary. I mean its not like they are removing the dolls and changing the music all together.

However its a nice effort though.
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Thus far the LA Times, OC Register, and TMZ all seem to think this "disconnected group" may very well be in the majority. The fact that it has had any coverage is in itself interesting.
And there has yet to be an organized protest outside the Resort too.
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This isn't really nessary - adding characters isn't going to make the ride any less scary.
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And there has yet to be an organized protest outside the Resort too.
Which goes back to my previous post. I should also point out that they all chose to run these stories because they felt these stories appealed to the masses. There are a TON of things on Micechat that never make it out to the main media... this did... why? Without a single actual organized protest this "campaign" managed to get published by three mainstream media outlets (like it or not TMZ is often cited as a source and is now considered reputable by news affiliate standards). That.. means several individuals outside Micechat feel this "campaign" has merit, and deserves to be heard by a wider audience. If it was that "disconnected" I highly doubt it would have made it out of Micechat.

To cite the influence of TMZ, they did a story on the Patriots QB visiting his girlfriend in New York. News anchors noticed the guy had a walking cast on (TMZ didn't even notice this). Vegas then re-wrote the spread and all major news agencies covered a "possible QB injury". They've "broken" a lot of stories and are often cited by other news, their photos are used by other outlets. In short, they have the resources other agencies would love to have. Sadly that comes with a price, their notoriety and their show acts as encouragement for paparitzi to get more. So they chose to cover this, and other news agencies now know about it... like it or not it hit the main stream. Where it goes from here is anyone's guess.
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Which goes back to my previous post. I should also point out that they all chose to run these stories because they felt these stories appealed to the masses. There are a TON of things on Micechat that never make it out to the main media... this did... why? Without a single actual organized protest this "campaign" managed to get published by three mainstream media outlets (like it or not TMZ is often cited as a source and is now considered reputable by news affiliate standards). That.. means several individuals outside Micechat feel this "campaign" has merit, and deserves to be heard by a wider audience. If it was that "disconnected" I highly doubt it would have made it out of Micechat.
The issue is the action adds a different dimension. Protests are usually reserved for making a strong political statement. It is the action, not the issue, that would be damaging. It would have been ensured that the message of "it's a small world", and not a Disneyland attraction, remain at the heart of the entire endeavor and have to be made as serious as protesting a war or something similar.
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This isn't really nessary - adding characters isn't going to make the ride any less scary.
Thanks for proving the point as to why the characters are themselves unnecessary.
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This isn't really nessary - adding characters isn't going to make the ride any less scary.
Yeah I mean adding mickey, goofy , and some characters in parts of the world wouldn't hurt at all.

It will make the ride more fun.
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Re: Save the Rainforest - Keep "it's a small world" a classic.

how long before this thing becomes a controversial subject with the media? lol. I find it amazing.

It began with a small simple thing and thats adding some disney characters in some certain parts of the world and the ride would be fun with them in it.

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The issue is the action adds a different dimension. Protests are usually reserved for making a strong political statement. It is the action, not the issue, that would be damaging. It would have been ensured that the message of "it's a small world", and not a Disneyland attraction, remain at the heart of the entire endeavor and have to be made as serious as protesting a war or something similar.
Image is everything, if the media influences the public and the public is not in support of this then there would be no need for a protest. Disney would back down well before it got to that point. IMO the LA Times piece already hints at that position with the "decisions have not been made" comment. For all we know the public may love the idea of having Disney characters on the attraction and the media coverage could backfire... but without posing the question there would be no way to know either way.
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Thanks for proving the point as to why the characters are themselves unnecessary.
Really you must see the irony of having the campaign poster in your signature and yet "proving a point". I am very much on the fence, but more then anything I wonder what will be done with this petition... as they say "who gets it?"
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Re: Save the Rainforest - Keep "it's a small world" a classic.

Personally I would move away from a protest idea and more towards a party idea. Protests tend to invoke a knee jerk reaction, even before the idea of the protest is heard.

Something like a marathon sing-along of Small World, or an 1 hour broadcast of different recordings (hopefully some in different languages) of Small World on a local college radio station, and then posting about it later and sending a press release would be a better way to approach getting the word out. You will probably pick up more support from people on the fence, and not risk alienating potential supporters with an all out protest.

I would save a protest for a time when stronger measures were called for. At the moment, it doesn't seem neccessary.

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