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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Quote Originally Posted by HMF View Post
    Please don't make a Walt Disney joke.
    Wait...what? I'm not...I simply meant that since the symbol has been historically used in occult settings, and the Imagineers generally did/do a lot of research into the topics at hand, it wouldn't surprise me if they were aware of the symbol's past uses. Nazism was hardly the symbol's primary meaning, from the sound of things.


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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Datameister View Post
    Wait...what? I'm not...I simply meant that since the symbol has been historically used in occult settings, and the Imagineers generally did/do a lot of research into the topics at hand, it wouldn't surprise me if they were aware of the symbol's past uses. Nazism was hardly the symbol's primary meaning, from the sound of things.
    Fun off topic fact: If you go through a certain old Buddhist temple in Los Angeles, you will notice that the four-sided symbol is carved on many surfaces. It was a holy symbol before its use in a reign of terror. Some cultures saw it to represent different deities, such as Mother Earth and Father Sky.
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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Brilliant post and research, HBG....it's the little quirky details like that which I, and I suspect, the other Mansion-fans/Thread participants love...and the Crump artwork is always brilliant to see, very fun and detailed and spooky, so double points for that one.

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Datameister View Post
    Nazism was hardly the symbol's primary meaning, from the sound of things.
    This whole discussion is more than a little bit silly. Widespread use of the "three sevens" triskele (aka triskelion) by neo-nazi or white supremacist groups dates only to 1973, as far as I can tell. That's seven years after Walt's death and four years after the HM opened.

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Quote Originally Posted by HBG2 View Post
    This whole discussion is more than a little bit silly. Widespread use of the "three sevens" triskele (aka triskelion) by neo-nazi or white supremacist groups dates only to 1973, as far as I can tell. That's seven years after Walt's death and four years after the HM opened.

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Datameister View Post
    Wait...what? I'm not...I simply meant that since the symbol has been historically used in occult settings, and the Imagineers generally did/do a lot of research into the topics at hand, it wouldn't surprise me if they were aware of the symbol's past uses. Nazism was hardly the symbol's primary meaning, from the sound of things.
    I know what you guys meant. It's just that I constantly have to explain the context of that Donald Duck cartoon to a friend who constantly ask's me about it. I had to explain to him that it was anti-Nazi propaganda not Pro and all that. So I am just worried that people will make a connection to the (false) Anti-Semetic rumor about Walt Disney. I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion on that topic so I will end it here.

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Quote Originally Posted by HMF View Post
    I know what you guys meant. It's just that I constantly have to explain the context of that Donald Duck cartoon to a friend who constantly ask's me about it. I had to explain to him that it was anti-Nazi propaganda not Pro and all that. So I am just worried that people will make a connection to the (false) Anti-Semetic rumor about Walt Disney. I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion on that topic so I will end it here.
    Erm....you were the one that brought it up though....
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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    What's say we cleanse our palates of all this Nazi stuff and finger-pointing with a wonderful piece of Claude Coats concept art? This one has never been posted or discussed in the Threads, maybe because there's not much to say, 'cept maybe "Wow."

    He was obviously thinking of an endless hall in more directions than one. The idea that the physical house itself dissolves into the spiritual dimension is beautifully illustrated here.


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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Wow.



    No, but seriously, I really like that piece. The idea of the structure of the house being transmogrified by the haunting within is, in some ways, more enjoyable for me than the actual manifestations of the ghosts themselves. Well...then again, I do get MAJOR kicks from Pepper's Ghost...


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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Transmogrified??
    Did you just coin another term, Mr. Data?

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Actually, I don't think that piece is Claude Coates. I have been told it was Dorthea Redmond.

    As for the linkage breaking information. The Maintenance CM's can tell the difference between something small and accidental (someone a little on the larger side leaning too far one way), and someone intentionally breaking it. So, if they do it with intent to break it, they get a nice talking to by our pals in Security and can be escourted from the park. Fun right?

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

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    Transmogrified??
    Did you just coin another term, Mr. Data?
    Transmogrify: v. to change or alter greatly and often with grotesque or humorous effect.

    If you read Calvin and Hobbes you'd know it.
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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

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    Transmogrify: v. to change or alter greatly and often with grotesque or humorous effect.

    If you read Calvin and Hobbes you'd know it.
    Transmogrify & Phantasmagoria (a favorite word of mine myself) just SOUND so fabulous! And when your find out/realize what they mean, your see they ARE!

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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

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    Transmogrified??
    Did you just coin another term, Mr. Data?
    Haha, for once, no, as BassBone and nojarama have pointed out.


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    Re: Revenge of "Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect," or The Thread 3

    Oh yeah, I remember that word from Calvin and Hobbes. At the time, I thought Calvin had made it up.
    So that's twice that my brain refused to believe that this was a real word.


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