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    Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    Walt Disney was about 50 yrs ahead of his time...... times up!

    The Imagineers were pioneers in so many creative fields including Animatronics, during the fast paced developments of the 1960's the public at large felt sure at the current rate Walt Disney would have fully autonomous AA figures in just a few short years spawning such books and films like the Stepford wives and Westworld. They may have been right but we will never know. Walt Disney passed away suddenly at the height of this explosion of technology at WDI. He was 50 yrs ahead of his time and now its 50 yrs later and time has caught up.

    Without Walt to drive them on and push them ever farther into the future of technological entertainment the Disney co sat on its laurels and now places a funeral wreath on that legacy with the laying off and closing down of inhouse animatronic development and outsourcing it. Their claim as the explanation for this action is that over the years "others" have made greater strides in this field, this is true. its true because the short sighted, narrow minded, penny watching corporate mindset that has dominated the company for decades allowed this to happen.

    As many have noticed the number of AA figures at DL peaked around 1968 to early 70's this being the remains of the impetus started by Walt but has been steadily dropping off ever since....

    I have observed alot of sad things happen over the years at DL, things that make you shake your head in dismay ... but this..

    This decision is truly the final nail in the coffin of what innovative pioneering spirit the name Disney used to stand for..

    We have already seen the Animation dept the heart of the company fall to wayside now outsourced to pixar...

    With this decision the company does not even realize it has squandered the 50 yrs ahead of its time leap that their creator gave them.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    this is posted in the news section.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    That is terrible. Disney is selling itself away fast. When will a loving genuine president take over and control Disney? Is it even possible?

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    it might be time for either Roy Disney to reactivate the save disney website, or for the disney/miller families to buy back the company. either way, the outsourcing? heres my answer to that :

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    They might as well sell the parks to Universal while they are at it.


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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    As long as the quality and quantity of the AAs continue to be at least as high as they currently are, I don't mind. The symbolism can be seen as sort of sad, and my heart goes out to anyone laid off as a result of this change--but as far as the final output goes, it could be exactly the same or better, which should be the most important thing to most parkgoers.


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    out of the shoadows I come...

    Symbolically it's sad. But I cant help but wonder about all the other projects that have been outsourced in the past. I don't think the development of the AA's will be outsourced, rather than the construction itself.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    This is actually a good thing not a bad thing.

    The Imagineers are supposed to be designers and artists not engineers. In Walt's day the imagineers would come up with a concept and than call in the engineers to actually build the things walt and the imagineers wanted in the parks. It was only on under Eisner were they started hiring all these people to do all the construction work inhouse.

    Smaller companies (usually run by ex-imagineers) can produce better animatronics for less cost and frees up the imagineers time from having to figure out how to build the stuff so that they can concentrate on actual design and theme work. The complex, experimental AA's like Lucky the Dinosaur will still be built inhouse at Disney. This is Win Win.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    Data, Ghostbuster, are you saying we don't have to bust open our piggy banks and try to buy Disney back from The Evil Ones?
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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    I could see construction being outsourced, that would make sense, they did that for the HK Small World figures. Developement, however, should stay inhouse.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster626 View Post
    This is actually a good thing not a bad thing.

    The Imagineers are supposed to be designers and artists not engineers. In Walt's day the imagineers would come up with a concept and than call in the engineers to actually build the things walt and the imagineers wanted in the parks. It was only on under Eisner were they started hiring all these people to do all the construction work inhouse.

    Smaller companies (usually run by ex-imagineers) can produce better animatronics for less cost and frees up the imagineers time from having to figure out how to build the stuff so that they can concentrate on actual design and theme work. The complex, experimental AA's like Lucky the Dinosaur will still be built inhouse at Disney. This is Win Win.

    Actually, you have that wrong there. What do you think the “gineers” part of Imagineers is? In the early days of Imagineering, there were ONLY the crew that Walt pulled from the studio, into a group that he dubbed Imagineering – a cross between imagination and engineering.

    The only thing that outsourcing all the creative elements of the company does is frees up management to get rid of the ”expensive” creative talent within the company. The continued overall deterioration of the creative integrity of Disney will eventually result in the company becoming just another player instead of the leader. If Disney ends up using the same vendors that everyone else has access to, then their attractions will no longer be any different than the rest.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    Quote Originally Posted by GothicManor View Post
    We have already seen the Animation dept the heart of the company fall to wayside now outsourced to pixar...
    This is a very broad and incorrect statement. Disney has not outsourced any animation to Pixar whatsoever. Disney Feature Animation transitioned to CG after Home on the Range, where they animated Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons. A newly formed traditional animation department in the Burbank studio is now working on The Princess and the Frog. Never did Disney instruct Pixar to make one of their films. All of Pixar's films were created within the walls of their Emeryville studio.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob F View Post
    This is a very broad and incorrect statement. Disney has not outsourced any animation to Pixar whatsoever. Disney Feature Animation transitioned to CG after Home on the Range, where they animated Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons. A newly formed traditional animation department in the Burbank studio is now working on The Princess and the Frog. Never did Disney instruct Pixar to make one of their films. All of Pixar's films were created within the walls of their Emeryville studio.

    While the significant portion of animation is done in-house (ALL of Pixar's), Disney does outsource some to India I believe.

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    I don't think this has anything to do with the actual conception, design, or creativity of the AA's. In fact wasn't the new monorail outsourced??

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    Re: Disney closes inhouse Animatronics and now to outsource....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob F
    If Disney ends up using the same vendors that everyone else has access to, then their attractions will no longer be any different than the rest.
    That statement assumes that the quality of the technology is the only determining factor in the quality of the experience--a patently false assumption. We can assume that the development will still be done all at WDI; nothing else would make sense. While you're absolutely right that this could level the playing field a bit in terms of technology, Disney will most likely still be calling all the creative shots, which--in theory--can lead to the vastly superior quality we've seen in the past. (Fingers crossed for them actually pulling that off...)


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