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    Quality of Duffy fur

    Many people have posted in other threads that Park Authentic Duffys at WDW and Disneyland now have “waffle” fur. Now I’m afraid my Duffy has subpar fur. I believe I bought him a little over a year ago. Does anyone have a photo of the old fur versus the new? Should I consider getting a DTS authentic Duffy?

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    Re: Quality of Duffy fur

    I'm feeling the same way! and unfortunately I can not upload pictures bc I do not know how to resize images. I have spent so much time trying to do it and I am just so frustrated

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    Re: Quality of Duffy fur

    Hope these help...

    For this photo: On the right is my Duffy that I purchased in November 2010. On the left is a Duffy that was for sale at WDW July 2012:


    On the left is a Duffy for sale at WDW March 2012. On the right is my Duffy bought November 2010:
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    Wow, That is a definite difference. My Duffy looks like the one on the left. Any idea if the DTS has the "old" type fur? (Like the one on the right?)

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    It's really hard for me to tell the difference via pictures (I think I don't have quite an eye for this sort of thing). I'm assuming that the newer US Parks one has more "clumpier" fur that look as though they're gathered in little patches?

    Since I got my Duffy a few days ago, I assume that the "waffle" version is the type of fur mine has. I think my Duffy has a more distinguished face than the naked 2012 one on the left, though (and I wouldn't trade him for any other Duffy). It's really a terrible shame that US Disney isn't giving their fans the same Duffy experience that Tokyo Disney fans/patrons are being given (be it due to difference in demographics/cultures or whatever), right down from the lower-quality outfits to the different-quality bears.

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    Yes if you just got your Duffy a few days ago, it has the waffle fur. When Duffy was released in the US parks in October 2010, he had the same kind of fur as the Duffys you can get (and still get) at Tokyo DisneySea. Duffy had this fur until late 2011/early 2012 when they switched to the waffle fur. They also made his ears smaller and his feet are a little different too.

    There are a couple feet photos to show the difference...

    2010 Duffy/TDS Duffy:


    As you can see, there's a stitch that "separates" the foot from his toes.

    US Duffy July 2012:
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    As you can see, the eliminated the stitch in his foot... it makes him look like he has fat feet.

    Current US Duffy:


    This photo was taken a week ago at my local Disney Store. As you can see, they added the stitch in the foot back in but it's not as pronounced as it was before. His ears are still on the small side but bigger than the 2012 Duffy ears. One of my favorite things about Duffy's physical appearance is his HUMUNGOID ears. They're just adorable and make Duffy unique from other teddy bears out there. Only problem is I have to cut the earholes in his hats I get at Build A Bear bigger so his ears can fit through better and not be as squished.

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    Re: Quality of Duffy fur

    My Duffy was purchased in September of 2012 at the store in DCA with all the stuffed animals.

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    Someone enlighten me...is the "waffle" fur?

    As for the quality of my own Duffy's fur, its pretty good. I noticed that it was getting a bit dirty so I just put him in the gentle cycle, air fluffed him and he was back to normal and smelling so clean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimster View Post
    Hope these help...

    For this photo: On the left is my Duffy that I purchased in November 2010. On the right is a Duffy that was for sale at WDW July 2012:


    On the right is a Duffy for sale at WDW March 2012. On the left is my Duffy bought November 2010:
    Um…I think you switched left and right…? Isn't your bear on the right in both photos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimster View Post
    …As you can see, the eliminated the stitch in his foot... it makes him look like he has fat feet.

    …His ears are still on the small side but bigger than the 2012 Duffy ears. One of my favorite things about Duffy's physical appearance is his HUMUNGOID ears. They're just adorable and make Duffy unique from other teddy bears out there…
    I agree, and I noticed the ear change immediately. I didn't know about the feet, though. You know, I bet they did that not just to preserve costs, but because that stitch sometimes "pops" when handled too roughly and they are aggressively marketing to kids. The solution, of course, is to make a stronger stitch, not ruin the design of the feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rococo View Post
    It's really hard for me to tell the difference via pictures (I think I don't have quite an eye for this sort of thing). I'm assuming that the newer US Parks one has more "clumpier" fur that look as though they're gathered in little patches?

    Since I got my Duffy a few days ago, I assume that the "waffle" version is the type of fur mine has. I think my Duffy has a more distinguished face than the naked 2012 one on the left, though (and I wouldn't trade him for any other Duffy). It's really a terrible shame that US Disney isn't giving their fans the same Duffy experience that Tokyo Disney fans/patrons are being given (be it due to difference in demographics/cultures or whatever), right down from the lower-quality outfits to the different-quality bears.
    It's hard for me to see in these photos, too, but like night and day when you see the actual bears. I'm not sure the waffle fur is "lower quality," though. It's just a difference I don't prefer. And the more I think about it, I feel sure these were at TDS briefly, around the same time as the "manga" bears. I really suspect they may have been factory errors, and I wonder if the US is just selling off that stock because Japanese fans wouldn't buy them. I definitely remember now seeing two university-aged girls and one already had Duffy and the friend had clearly been planning to adopt one. She kept holding her friend's up to the waffle one saying "I want one like yours!" If it was an intentional choice, it wasn't a popular one; unlike the Chinese manga bears which many fans perceived as a very happy accident. I hope Janell posts pics. I wish I'd got one for myself now kinda. They are super super cute!

    The ears and unstitched foot are definite and major quality issues in my mind. Although one could argue that the ears are being modified to be more bearlike, Duffy's big ears and silhouette are as iconic and used in exactly the same way as Mickey's in Tokyo, so I see that as a serious problem, whatever the reason.

    And the "popped" foot is a damaged Duffy by normal standards, so all the poor folks who bought Duffy last year were buying "damaged goods" at full price, new, from the IP-holder. That's just crazy. This is only made worse by the fact that it's fixed now. No recall, no apology. Just hoping they don't notice. That's dirty business, and if those people ever find out, it makes Duffy the Bear of UNhappiness and BAD luck. And even if they never find out, they miss out on the simple joy that is Duffy's perfectly designed feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuffyDaisuki View Post
    Um…I think you switched left and right…? Isn't your bear on the right in both photos?
    I fixed it. Good LORD I'm dumb sometimes.

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    I agree, and I noticed the ear change immediately. I didn't know about the feet, though. You know, I bet they did that not just to preserve costs, but because that stitch sometimes "pops" when handled too roughly and they are aggressively marketing to kids. The solution, of course, is to make a stronger stitch, not ruin the design of the feet.
    True, but if you have a family member who sews, it can be fixed easily enough. It happened to my Duffy's foot and my aunt fixed him for me good as new. I believe Gurgi had the same problem and got his fixed as well.

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    Re: Quality of Duffy fur

    Quote Originally Posted by mgmenning View Post
    Many people have posted in other threads that Park Authentic Duffys at WDW and Disneyland now have “waffle” fur. Now I’m afraid my Duffy has subpar fur. I believe I bought him a little over a year ago. Does anyone have a photo of the old fur versus the new? Should I consider getting a DTS authentic Duffy?
    if your Duffy has your heart then it doesn't matter what his fur is like. The more goes with you his fur will change. My Duffy face shows he goes everywhere, even a CM commented how my Duffy must be very loved because you can tell he's well traveled. Have fun with your Duffy, that's all that really matters.

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    Re: Quality of Duffy fur

    Well put, Janell! What really matters is how Duffy and Shellie May make you feel!
    Luv Duffy & Shellie May


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    Re: Quality of Duffy fur

    Firstly, Aimster! You have the best outfits for your Duffy! I simply adore the outfit he is wearing with the Star Tours badge. The photo hugging the leopard is a treasure.

    Secondly, everyone may have their own preferences with regard to the fur, but as others say, "If you love your bear, what does fur matter?" After a while, the fur won't look waffled anymore, it will look well-loved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janell View Post
    …Have fun with your Duffy, that's all that really matters.
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    Well put, Janell! What really matters is how Duffy and Shellie May make you feel!
    Once you get them home I'm inclined to agree, certainly. But the ethical issue is a real one and does matter. It is a problem that a huge megacorporation built on the concept of dreams and magic chooses not to clearly, openly and genuinely acknowledge the achievements of its very own licensee, to the point of misdirecting accolades by conveniently leaving out said licensee's name at every opportunity while also mentioning its own lead artist by name every chance it gets; and which at the same time banks on all the goodwill built by said licensee company so that fans feel attachment anyway.

    This is a problem because instead of being happy about every US Duffy sale, anyone with a conscience who understands what's happening feels at best disappointed or frustrated, at worst dismayed and outraged. It corrupts Duffy.

    The relationship between the OLC design team and fans is like that described by the fox in The Little Prince. For now I'll just post Katherine Woods's vastly superior translation here. I think the point is clear, though I cannot resist making one note. What the fox says about the importance of observing "proper rites" is particularly clear as part of OLC's guiding principles and vigorous business model, in stark contrast to, for instance, "Limited Time Magic":

    It was then that the fox appeared.

    "Good morning," said the fox.

    "Good morning," the little prince responded politely, although when he turned around he saw nothing.

    "I am right here," the voice said, "under the apple tree."

    "Who are you?" asked the little prince, and added, "You are very pretty to look at."

    "I am a fox," the fox said.

    "Come and play with me," proposed the little prince. "I am so unhappy."

    "I cannot play with you," the fox said. "I am not tamed."

    "Ah! Please excuse me," said the little prince.

    But, after some thought, he added:

    "What does that mean--'tame'?"

    "You do not live here," said the fox. "What is it that you are looking for?"

    "I am looking for men," said the little prince. "What does that mean--'tame'?"

    "Men," said the fox. "They have guns, and they hunt. It is very disturbing. They also raise chickens. These are their only interests. Are you looking for chickens?"

    "No," said the little prince. "I am looking for friends. What does that mean--'tame'?"

    "It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. It means to establish ties."

    "'To establish ties'?"

    "Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you, I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world . . ."

    "I am beginning to understand," said the little prince. "There is a flower . . . I think that she has tamed me . . ."

    "It is possible," said the fox. "On the Earth one sees all sorts of things."

    "Oh, but this is not on the Earth!" said the little prince.

    The fox seemed perplexed, and very curious.

    "On another planet?"

    "Yes."

    "Are there hunters on that planet?"

    "No."

    "Ah, that is interesting! Are there chickens?"

    "No."

    "Nothing is perfect," sighed the fox.

    But he came back to his idea.

    "My life is very monotonous," the fox said. "I hunt chickens; men hunt me. All the chickens are just alike, and all the men are just alike. And, in consequence, I am a little bored. But if you tame me, it will be as if the sun came to shine on my life. I shall know the sound of a step that will be different from all the others. Other steps send me hurrying back underneath the ground. Yours will call me, like music, out of my burrow. And then look: you see the grain-fields down yonder? I do not eat bread. Wheat is of no use to me. The wheat fields have nothing to say to me. And that is sad. But you have hair that is the color of gold. Think how wonderful that will be when you have tamed me! The grain, which is also golden, will bring me back the thought of you. And I shall love to listen to the wind in the wheat . . ."

    The fox gazed at the little prince, for a long time.

    "Please--tame me!" he said.

    "I want to, very much," the little prince replied. "But I have not much time. I have friends to discover, and a great many things to understand."

    "One only understands the things that one tames," said the fox. "Men have no more time to understand anything. They buy things all ready made at the shops. But there is no shop anywhere where one can buy friendship, and so men have no friends any more. If you want a friend, tame me . . ."

    "What must I do, to tame you?" asked the little prince.

    "You must be very patient," replied the fox. "First you will sit down at a little distance from me--like that--in the grass. I shall look at you out of the corner of my eye, and you will say nothing. Words are the source of misunderstandings. But you will sit a little closer to me, every day . . ."

    The next day the little prince came back.

    "It would have been better to come back at the same hour," said the fox. "If, for example, you come at four o'clock in the afternoon, then at three o'clock I shall begin to be happy. I shall feel happier and happier as the hour advances. At four o'clock, I shall already be worrying and jumping about. I shall show you how happy I am! But if you come at just any time, I shall never know at what hour my heart is to be ready to greet you . . . One must observe the proper rites . . ."

    "What is a rite?" asked the little prince.

    "Those also are actions too often neglected," said the fox. "They are what make one day different from other days, one hour from other hours. There is a rite, for example, among my hunters. Every Thursday they dance with the village girls. So Thursday is a wonderful day for me! I can take a walk as far as the vineyards. But if the hunters danced at just any time, every day would be like every other day, and I should never have any vacation at all."

    So the little prince tamed the fox. And when the hour of his departure drew near--

    "Ah," said the fox, "I shall cry."

    "It is your own fault," said the little prince. "I never wished you any sort of harm; but you wanted me to tame you . . ."

    "Yes, that is so," said the fox.

    "But now you are going to cry!" said the little prince.

    "Yes, that is so," said the fox.

    "Then it has done you no good at all!"

    "It has done me good," said the fox, "because of the color of the wheat fields." And then he added:

    "Go and look again at the roses. You will understand now that yours is unique in all the world. Then come back to say goodbye to me, and I will make you a present of a secret."

    The little prince went away, to look again at the roses.

    "You are not at all like my rose," he said. "As yet you are nothing. No one has tamed you, and you have tamed no one. You are like my fox when I first knew him. He was only a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But I have made him my friend, and now he is unique in all the world."

    And the roses were very much embarassed.

    "You are beautiful, but you are empty," he went on. "One could not die for you. To be sure, an ordinary passerby would think that my rose looked just like you--the rose that belongs to me. But in herself alone she is more important than all the hundreds of you other roses: because it is she that I have watered; because it is she that I have put under the glass globe; because it is she that I have sheltered behind the screen; because it is for her that I have killed the caterpillars (except the two or three that we saved to become butterflies); because it is she that I have listened to, when she grumbled, or boasted, or ever sometimes when she said nothing. Because she is my rose.

    And he went back to meet the fox.

    "Goodbye," he said.

    "Goodbye," said the fox. "And now here is my secret, a very simple secret: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."

    "What is essential is invisible to the eye," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember.

    "It is the time you have wasted for your rose that makes your rose so important."

    "It is the time I have wasted for my rose--" said the little prince, so that he would be sure to remember.

    "Men have forgotten this truth," said the fox. " But you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed. You are responsible for your rose . . ."

    "I am responsible for my rose," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember.


    The Oriental Land Company has invested the time, creativity, and extraordinary amounts of both human and financial resources to "tame" Duffy, and he belongs to them. They deserve every yen that they reap, and I feel happy when I give my money to support their continued creativity and success. Duffy has tamed me, as has the Oriental Land Company and I feel responsible not to forget, nor let others forget, to honor what they have created and the energy they bring to the world.
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