Are bath time photographs of your kids pornographic?

[NeverNeverland]

Not based on that one pic. But you can't judge it without seeing all of the pics.

[ghosty4]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreaming

The photo released by the lawyer doesn't remotely match the descriptions from the police and city reports. The disparity between the reports' language and the image shown here is so wide that I have to assume this particular photo is not one that raised red flags for store employees, law enforcement and social workers.

Without more information, I have to assume there's more to this story and the lawyer is attempting a media offensive by selectively releasing evidence favorable to his clients. The only alternative is incompetence by the public agencies in question on such a massive scale as to be farcical.

THANK YOU!!! A friend and I have been discussing this through emails over the past week. She also takes the side that several are taking on this message board, and it's because they are READING WHAT THEY WANT TO READ. The picture in this article was NOT one of the pictures in question. IN FACT, they couldn't release the pictures in question because if they released them they WOULD be considered child porn. The action of taking them is no longer in question. A judge ruled that TAKING them is not an issue. The issue is taking them to your local photo developers and printing them for ANYONE to see. The parents also like to cite, "a time and a place" for nudity. And I agree totally. The place is YOUR HOME. The place is NOT WAL*MART. It is in my opinion that they did NOT need a hardcopy of the pictures in question. AGAIN, the picture from this article WAS NOT IN QUESTION. The pictures in question were of the girls laying down naked beside each other and touching each other.

I develop photos at a local retailer, and one of the women I work with stated it best, "If I thought the pictures in question WERE showing abuse, and I didn't report it, I'd never be able to forgive myself!". Which I'm sure is EXACTLY how the Wal*mart employees felt.

[IzzyInWonderland]

I saw this on The View this morning and was absolutely appalled. How could this ever be construed as inappropriate?? Every person I know takes pictures of their children in the bath and in their towels. You can tell by the photos that there is clearly nothing wrong with them. This is just some sicko trying to get attention.

[sir clinksalot]

I may have to change my reply:

Based on the original picture shown, it's NOT. But based on others who are in the local area of the issue saying that the pictures go FAR beyond normal "bath-time" photos ... then there may be an issue.

In a "Normal" circumstance, this is not an issue, but sadly, people sometimes take it too far.

[EvilQueen]

"... in the eye of the beholder"

Photo #1: Buffy and Sissy in the bubble bath
Photo #2: Buffy and Sissy making "bubble beards"
Photo #3: Sissy crying
Photo #4: Buffy crying
Photo #5: Out of the bath, naked, kissing and hugging
Photo #6: "Buffy, point to Sissy's belly button!"
Photo #7: Sissy pointing to Buffy's who-who
Photo #8: Buffy and Sissy laughing, naked
Photo #9: both girls looking at the camera, looking concerned / scared
Photo #10: Buffy and Sissy all wrapped up in towels, smiling at camera

Innocent? Absolutely. 100%. No Question.

Now, view these photos out of context: Wal-Mart employee scanning a zillion photos per day, comes across 24 photos of two little girls, naked, touching, kissing, pointing to 'privates', one of naked little girl crying (shampoo in her eye? man telling her to do something ugly? how can you tell?), no adult in picture - and I have to agree with an earlier poster: if you DIDN'T report the photos and found out later that these little girls were molested and the photos were in YOUR hands and you did nothing - how could you live with yourself?

I talked about this with a friend / former DCA Cast Member who used to work at Flik's Fair a lot; she said that it was a daily (if not hourly) struggle to tell parents to put their little ones' clothes back on their toddlers / small children who were playing in the giant sprinkler / water area. "Oh, they're just children! They're FINE!" every parent would tell her, as the mother had a pile of dry clothes sitting next to her, as the naked 2-year old boy - sans diaper, 3-year old boy and 4-year old girl - all three without clothes or shoes - played in the water. "Ma'am, I'm going to have to ask you to please put their clothes and shoes back on..." as her eyes would scan the area noticing that a lot of the folks watching the scene did not happen to have any "little ones" of their own.

"What if..."

How is anyone to know what / when / who is safe these days? You don't want to sound an alarm and ruin someone's life, but the news is full of tragedies every day. (I am not going to list the several well-publicized events of the last couple of months where little ones were abducted / molested / found dead; we have ALL heard the reports. One crime was committed by a woman / mother, who doesn't at all fit the "usual" profile of a pedophile / murderer); what if a photo of a naked little one fell into your lap at work and you thought later, "If I had only picked up the phone and called..." ?

[findingmickey]

its just so sad that they lost their kids for over a month.

[Princess Buttercup]

Originally Posted by sir clinksalot

Absolutely NOT!!!

The only thing that would make a picture like that pornographic would be the sick mind of somebody looking at it and MAKING it pornographic.

I agree. This is a really sad story ! I feel really bad for the family

Maybe everyone should just switch to digital cameras so nothing like this will ever happen again.

[leopardchucks]

Crap. There are bathtime pics of me and I have tons of bathtime pics of my son. He's my baby and there's nothing perverted about that!
I understand that when someone suspects abuse, they SHOULD call authorities. And for the girls to be taken from their home for a whole month leads me to believe that the pictures were of questionable content.
I don't know.

But I would be horrified if this happened to my family.

[JesterMn]

Originally Posted by Princess Buttercup

Maybe everyone should just switch to digital cameras so nothing like this will ever happen again.

Eek! So that way, the real child molesters will never get caught? Probably not the best proposition. Although I'm sure it's done anyway, making it pretty scary thought.

[alphabassetgrrl]

Parent having nekkid pics of their kids? Fine.

Other people having those pics? Not so ok.

Printing hard copy? Maybe not the brightest idea because now other people see them. Maybe find a place where the printing is automated, and nobody else sees what you're printing.

[I Heart Disneyland]

We live in a sick society that people look at kids at bathtime and think it's pornographic. Unfortunately because of some weirdos who DO think it's thrilling, the rest of society pays for that.